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Tuesday, May 14, 2024
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Meeting Overview

This Special Council meeting was convened primarily to approve the 2023 Consolidated Financial Statements before their submission deadline and to adopt the annual Tax Rates Bylaw. The Director of Finance, Damon Christenson, and the auditor, Corey Vanderhorst, presented the results. Discussion centered on the $7.4 million annual surplus driven largely by the Growing Communities Fund grant, the town's low debt capacity usage, and the declining trend in net book value of tangible capital assets relative to amortization, highlighting the need for increased investment in asset replacement. Both the Financial Statements acceptance and the Tax Rates Bylaw adoption were carried unanimously. The meeting concluded at 4:28 p.m.

Key Decisions

  • Council formally accepted the audited financial report.
  • Council adopted the 2024 Tax Rates Bylaw.
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Transcript

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Sid Tobias0:00

Good afternoon.

Sid Tobias0:00

Welcome to the special council meeting for the town of View Royal for Tuesday, May 14th, 2024.

Sid Tobias0:08

Just for uh awareness that we'll go through the special council meeting primarily because of budget that needs to get through, and then we'll go into our normal council the whole meeting.

Sid Tobias0:20

Um I'll start with a territorial acknowledgement that we recognize the Lakongan speaking people known today as the Esquimalt Nation and Songhees Nation, and that their historic connections to these lands continue to this day.

Sid Tobias0:33

Uh this afternoon we'll hear from the public who phone uh in, probably on two portions: one on the special council meeting and also on our council the whole meeting and question period portions of the agenda.

Sid Tobias0:46

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Sid Tobias0:58

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Sid Tobias1:02

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Sid Tobias1:06

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Sid Tobias1:11

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Sid Tobias1:16

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Sid Tobias1:24

To begin please indicate your name and address for the record speakers will have five minutes each to speak during the public participation and two minutes to ask a question or questions during question period and you will be timed.

Sid Tobias1:35

This meeting will be recorded by participating in the webcast you are consenting to being recorded and the recording will be available on the town's website for future access.

Sid Tobias1:48

For council today we have uh for this afternoon's portion Councillor Rogers online.

Sid Tobias1:54

Uh Councillor Kowalewich cannot be with us and I believe um Councillor Mattson will be uh coming in uh this evening remotely um may I have a motion to approve the special council meeting uh agenda please second all those in favor?

Sid Tobias2:24

Any opposed?

Sid Tobias2:26

Seeing none opposed, motion carries.

Sid Tobias2:29

And can I get a motion to adopt the minutes?

Sid Tobias2:29

Uh I'll be brief and I'll just thank Staff and Don for getting all this work together for us for the consolidated uh financial statements and audit results.

Sid Tobias2:32

Well, we have no minutes to adopt, so we do not need a motion for it.

Sid Tobias2:35

Mayor's report.

Sid Tobias2:47

Um and uh thank you very much again for your hard work.

Sid Tobias2:51

Um that will bring us to our first public participation period.

Sid Tobias2:56

Donna, uh, you're the only one in the room, so either you say something or we go to online.

Sid Tobias3:06

Thank you.

Sid Tobias3:08

Uh Carl, we got anybody online?

Gery Lemon3:12

Mayor Tobias, we have no callers so far this evening.

Gery Lemon3:14

Thank you.

Sid Tobias3:19

Um, so I think we can move right down to staff reports, Don.

Damon Christenson3:39

I think I forgot to uh just one second.

Damon Christenson3:55

Sorry about that.

Damon Christenson3:56

You have to click first.

Damon Christenson3:58

All right, here we go.

Damon Christenson4:00

So thank you very much, Mayor and Council, for uh agreeing to uh humor us with a special council meeting.

Damon Christenson4:08

Today is May 14.

Damon Christenson4:10

Financial statements uh are due at the province tomorrow.

Damon Christenson4:13

So that is why we needed to have this happen today.

Damon Christenson4:16

So thank you for your time.

Damon Christenson4:19

Uh online we have Corey Vanderhorst of MNP with us, who is our auditor, and he has staff that supports him just like I have staff that support me.

Damon Christenson4:30

And I want to very much recognize the contribution of the finance team and Corey's team as well.

Damon Christenson4:37

Uh doing an audit and year-end financials is a huge piece of work.

Damon Christenson4:42

It is hours and hours that culminates in these financial statements, which are absolutely critical and required, even though they are not necessarily have a wide readership.

Damon Christenson5:09

Both compared to our prior year, 2022, and in in comparison with some of our neighbors as well.

Damon Christenson5:20

So attached to the staff report are two attachments.

Damon Christenson5:24

One is, of course, the draft 2023 Consolidated Financial Statements, as well as the 2023 Audit Findings Report.

Damon Christenson5:33

And Corey will be presenting his findings report to you right after my presentation.

Damon Christenson5:41

Okay.

Damon Christenson5:42

So we prepare financial statements in keeping with the community charter, and it is in accordance with public sector accounting standards.

Damon Christenson5:51

We don't make up the rules, we follow them, right?

Damon Christenson5:53

These statements are audited, of course, by MNP, who is our council-appointed audit firm.

Damon Christenson6:01

And legislation does require that the financial statements are presented publicly for council for your review and acceptance, and a resolution to that effect will be requested after we're done our presentation.

Damon Christenson6:24

And then, of course, we submit to the ministry.

Damon Christenson6:25

It is also going to be available on our website as all of our past financial statements have been.

Damon Christenson6:31

So I'm going to go through them through the financial statements.

Damon Christenson6:36

And please go ahead and stop me if you have any questions as we go through.

Damon Christenson6:41

It is really important to understand you know the role of each participant in the financial statement reporting process.

Damon Christenson6:49

Management, of course, is responsible for preparing the statements in according with accordance with accounting standards.

Damon Christenson6:55

The auditor provides independent examination on the statements and evaluates the systems of internal controls and then expresses an opinion on whether or not the financial statements fairly represent the actual financial position of the town.

Damon Christenson7:12

That's key.

Damon Christenson7:14

Mayor and council has a role as well, and that is responsible for oversight of management.

Damon Christenson7:21

You also have the opportunity to meet with the auditor at any time during the year or at any meeting you can request to have to meet with the auditor in camera to discuss any matter of concern.

Damon Christenson7:33

It is important, I think, that mayor and council understand that the auditor works for you, not for our CAO and not for me.

Damon Christenson7:41

Okay.

Damon Christenson7:42

So we're going to go through the statements.

Damon Christenson7:47

First, we're going to start with statement A, and you'll think of this as a balance sheet.

Damon Christenson7:51

It's called the statement of financial position, and it is a snapshot in time at December 31st, a specific date and time.

Damon Christenson7:59

It includes non financial assets, which are those physical assets.

Damon Christenson8:03

You can think of them as tangible capital assets like buildings and roads and sewer pipes and pump stations.

Damon Christenson8:09

And those are shown separately on municipal financial statements to highlight our financial positions separate from physical asset position in regards to tangible capital assets.

Damon Christenson8:23

The change in accumulated surplus is explained by the following statements, notes, and schedules.

Damon Christenson8:30

So it all has to be read as a package, not as any one isolated statement.

Damon Christenson8:39

So financial assets, we're going to talk about those first, is they represent future economic benefits that are owned by or owed to View Royal.

Damon Christenson8:50

These increased to about $12 million from 2022 to 2023.

Damon Christenson8:55

That seems like a large number, and we're going to learn as we go through how what that's what where did that come from?

Damon Christenson9:02

That's that seems that is higher than we have seen in some prior years.

Damon Christenson9:06

So we're going to talk about that a little bit.

Damon Christenson9:09

The um do note that the cash and cash equivalents of 49 million.

Damon Christenson9:16

Note three will explain more in detail that nearly 27 million of that is restricted.

Damon Christenson9:23

And by restricted, we mean set aside for a specific purpose.

Damon Christenson9:27

These are our reserves, these are our DCCs, right?

Damon Christenson9:31

So this is cash that has some sort of restriction on it.

Damon Christenson9:36

It's not free money to spend on just anything.

Damon Christenson9:41

Financial liabilities, then, are those items representing future economic benefits that are owed to other outside entities.

Damon Christenson9:51

These increased about $4 million.

Damon Christenson9:54

Mostly these are deferred revenue, as in DCCs.

Damon Christenson9:59

So those are all related.

Damon Christenson10:01

Net financial assets then is the difference between the financial assets and the financial and the and liabilities.

Damon Christenson10:10

And these increased about $8 million.

Damon Christenson10:13

Again, you know, that that is, you know, it's kind of all uh built in.

Damon Christenson10:21

It's uh the increase, of course, in net financial assets is because the financial assets uh increase was more than the increase in financial liabilities.

Damon Christenson10:31

Okay, so we're we're gonna see more of that as we go through.

Damon Christenson10:35

Now you're gonna see several of these charts as we go through.

Damon Christenson10:39

Um I I know it's probably a little bit hard to read here in council chambers, but I'm hoping the viewers at home, if there are any, can see them a little bit more clearly.

Damon Christenson10:48

It's just a little bit of a trend analysis, comparing both year over year for View Royal and against all other capital region municipalities.

Damon Christenson10:59

These are using the provincial statistics for local governments.

Damon Christenson11:03

You'll see that the blue bars represent View Royal's results.

Damon Christenson11:10

So you can just kind of follow the blue bars.

Damon Christenson11:12

Is it going up?

Damon Christenson11:13

Is it going down?

Damon Christenson11:14

Um, is it going, you know, is it a lot up or a little bit or down?

Damon Christenson11:20

So forth.

Damon Christenson11:21

The the lines on the graph, the dark purple line at the bottom represents the minimum of all of the other municipalities in the capital regional district.

Damon Christenson11:29

And the median is the yellow orange ish line.

Damon Christenson11:35

And the maximum is the top blue line that you see there.

Damon Christenson11:39

So it just kind of takes all of them and helps us understand where View Royal lands in terms of are we the lowest, the highest, or kind of middle of the pack?

Damon Christenson11:49

So that's how to read all of these.

Damon Christenson11:50

They all look very similar and they represent different things.

Damon Christenson11:55

This particular slide has two sustainability ratios.

Damon Christenson11:59

We call it sustainability because it represents the degree to which a government can maintain its existing financial obligations without increasing either debt or the tax burden relative to the economy.

Damon Christenson12:14

So really what we mean by that is are we able to pay our bills as they come due?

Damon Christenson12:14

Do we have the resources to meet our obligations?

Damon Christenson12:25

And indeed, what we see on the left is that for assets to liabilities, so this is the ratio of what we have as assets compared to our liabilities.

Damon Christenson12:35

And for every dollar of liability, we have $7.34 in assets.

Damon Christenson12:40

That's pretty strong.

Damon Christenson12:42

However, this does include tangible capital assets, which you're not gonna sell exactly to pay your bills.

Damon Christenson12:50

So what we do is uh look at the chart on the right that is our financial assets to liabilities.

Damon Christenson12:55

So this is more like cash in the bank compared to what we owe.

Damon Christenson12:59

And we find that for in 2023, we have about two dollars of assets for every dollar of liability.

Damon Christenson13:08

So that's a very strong position yet.

Damon Christenson13:11

We will be paying our bills as they come due, I'm happy to report.

Damon Christenson13:16

So then we'll go to non-financial assets, and these, of course, are the tangible capital assets, the buildings and infrastructure, vehicles, equipment that we use to deliver the services to View Royal residents and visitors.

Damon Christenson13:33

Total non-financial assets decreased about $600,000 in 2023.

Damon Christenson13:39

And and I would say, just generally speaking, whenever your non-financial asset total, this is your net book value, it it is an indicator that we are not replacing our assets faster than they're amortizing.

Damon Christenson13:56

So that's that's kind of how to how to think of that.

Damon Christenson14:01

Now accumulated surplus, the bottom line on the statement of financial position is a big number, 150 million.

Damon Christenson14:10

It increased 7.4 million from seven from 2022.

Damon Christenson14:15

7.4 million is also a larger number than we have seen.

Damon Christenson14:19

And as we go through my presentation today, we're going to talk about that number again.

Damon Christenson14:25

It's going to be, you're going to see it again.

Damon Christenson14:27

So statement B helps explain it.

Damon Christenson14:30

And then we're going to be looking at note 10 in the notes that will break this number down for you in detail.

Damon Christenson14:38

Any questions so far?

Damon Christenson14:39

We're doing good?

Damon Christenson14:40

Still awake?

Damon Christenson14:41

Thank you.

Damon Christenson14:43

Awesome.

Damon Christenson14:44

So then let's look at some flexibility ratios.

Damon Christenson14:47

What we mean by flexibility ratio is the degree to which a government can change its debt or tax burden on the economy within it with it within which it operates to meet existing financial obligations.

Damon Christenson15:03

So so basically, do we have the ability to cover some emergency without having to borrow?

Damon Christenson15:11

Right?

Damon Christenson15:11

So that that's kind of how I think of that.

Damon Christenson15:15

Or perhaps if there was a significant drop in some sort of revenue, how long could we sustain what we're doing without having to raise taxes?

Damon Christenson15:26

So the left chart compares accumulated surplus to taxes.

Damon Christenson15:30

And we've talked about surplus before with this council, so that that won't be an unfamiliar term to you.

Damon Christenson15:44

And the trend indicates that accumulated surplus is decreasing relative to taxation.

Damon Christenson15:50

So it and council is aware.

Damon Christenson15:54

We've talked about the use of accumulated surplus, which isn't a terrible thing, but this is this is some of that, right?

Damon Christenson16:02

It's not decreasing sharply, I'm I'm glad to see.

Damon Christenson16:06

So this is just one of those let's be aware.

Damon Christenson16:11

On the right side, though, is the operating surpluses to taxes.

Damon Christenson16:15

So the so remember, accumulated surplus doesn't count all of our tangible capital assets, which again are not really something that we can use to spend.

Damon Christenson16:24

But uh on so you know, so we do look more closely at operating surplus to taxes, which is the right hand chart.

Damon Christenson16:32

It takes out the tangible capital a can tangible capital assets and the reserve funds.

Damon Christenson16:38

It it keeps casino revenue in there, and it shows that for every one dollar of taxes we ended in 2023 with a dollar thirty in relatively available resources so that again is a strong position and you can see that the you know across uh time uh you know view royal the blue bars there are are fairly flat so that's that's a good I think a good indicator and we are above the median for other compared to other uh CRD municipalities uh I meant to mention that the reason why you see the line indicators on these charts ending in 2022 is because all the municipalities' information is due tomorrow and it wasn't available to me.

Damon Christenson17:22

So you'll see that again next year.

Damon Christenson17:24

So I've just got View Royals in there.

Damon Christenson17:30

So next we look at the consolidated statement of operations, which is statement B.

Damon Christenson17:35

You'll you'll recognize it as something akin to an income statement that shows revenue and expense and the total annual surplus or deficit.

Damon Christenson17:45

So you will see the same number on this statement, a bottom line of 150 million accumulated surplus.

Damon Christenson17:55

So we're gonna go through that.

Damon Christenson18:00

So view rules revenue is consolidated with West Shore Parks and Recreation and includes the value of the assets that are contributed by developers and DCCs.

Damon Christenson18:12

Now in 2023, we didn't have any assets contributed by developers, but by comparison, we did in 2022.

Damon Christenson18:20

Total revenue is up from 2022 nearly 13 million.

Damon Christenson18:26

That's considerable, primarily due to an increase in investment income.

Damon Christenson18:34

So you're going to hear that a couple of times, you're going to see that a couple of times, but more significantly in government grants and transfers.

Damon Christenson18:41

You will recall 4.6 million growing communities fund.

Damon Christenson18:47

That was something that we hadn't seen before.

Damon Christenson18:50

We received it in 2023 and we didn't spend it all in 2023.

Damon Christenson18:55

Instead, per the conditions with the grant, we put it into a reserve.

Damon Christenson19:00

So when that happens, you receive it as revenue, but you didn't spend it, so it there isn't an equal, you know, outflow, outgo uh expense.

Damon Christenson19:10

So that that's that's what has had a significant influence in our revenue number being quite a bit you know higher than it was in 2022.

Damon Christenson19:22

The other thing that you'll notice in 2022 if you're looking closely, is that there was a five nearly $5.5 million dollar loss in 2022, but that was um uh rel related to the parkland that was transferred to the CRD.

Damon Christenson19:38

So it wasn't a cash loss, I would say.

Damon Christenson19:41

It was we transferred it and booked the loss of of the asset compared to uh when we first uh uh received the asset and the value was recorded as as a loss so that also uh notes a difference um in revenue between 2022 and 2023 significantly our um user charges sales of service is another significant source of revenue for view royal it's about five million dollars and uh that uh is is uh one of the one of it was a little bit of an increase.

Damon Christenson20:18

Um, you know, so so for our revenue, uh, while there was an increase, I would, you know, other than the anomalies being the government grants and transfers, really, the most significant one in my book is the investment income.

Damon Christenson20:37

So expenses are shown against budget and against prior year, and we do look at these very closely.

Damon Christenson20:44

And it remember it does include our share of West Shore Parks and Rec revenue and expense as well.

Damon Christenson20:51

So total expense in 2023 is about one and a half or 1.4 million dollars more than in 2022.

Damon Christenson20:59

But each line uh for each of the functions, general government, protective services, and so on, is under budget for all except for recreation and culture, but that includes a loss of proportionate share in West Shore Parks and Rec that we book as an expense.

Damon Christenson21:15

So if it wasn't for that, then uh West then the parks and recreation recreation and culture services would have been under budget by about $150,000.

Damon Christenson21:25

So I have no concerns.

Damon Christenson21:26

It is something that we look at closely, is bottom line.

Damon Christenson21:29

We make a budget.

Damon Christenson21:31

Did we actually achieve that?

Damon Christenson21:32

And the answer is a solid yes.

Damon Christenson21:37

So then we look at the annual surplus and deficit.

Damon Christenson21:40

Of course, the annual surplus and deficit, as you know, is the difference between the revenue and the expense.

Damon Christenson21:46

What did we have left?

Damon Christenson21:47

That would be a surplus.

Damon Christenson21:49

What did we fall short by?

Damon Christenson21:50

That would be a deficit.

Damon Christenson21:52

And in this year, in 2023, we are reporting a $7.4 million dollar surplus, which again, that's the same number that you saw on statement A as the difference between the accumulated surplus last year to this.

Damon Christenson22:09

And we're going to look closely at this again.

Damon Christenson22:12

I do want to point out that if you look at the column labeled financial plan, you will see an annual surplus was planned for of nearly $5 million.

Damon Christenson22:25

Well, that seems odd since we have a balanced budget, right?

Damon Christenson22:29

Well, of course, accounting standards are a little bit different than budget, but what you can think of this as is we knew when we made the budget that we were going to get $4.6 million from the government.

Damon Christenson22:42

We also knew that we weren't going to spend it.

Damon Christenson22:45

We were going to put it in reserves.

Damon Christenson22:47

Well, reserves is a part of surplus.

Damon Christenson22:51

So of the $7.4 million that we experienced as a real surplus in 2023, we planned on $5 million of that.

Damon Christenson23:03

And we did exactly what we said we were going to do.

Damon Christenson23:06

We got it.

Damon Christenson23:08

Okay.

Damon Christenson23:15

Couple more flexibility ratios for you.

Damon Christenson23:18

On the left side is the extent to which financial assets could support a loss of any kind of revenue.

Damon Christenson23:26

Okay, so that's net financial assets to total revenue.

Damon Christenson23:31

And in 2023, it's just a little bit higher than it was in 2022.

Damon Christenson23:37

It's about a dollar for every dollar in financial assets for every dollar of revenue.

Damon Christenson23:45

So that's that's a fair, a fair measure that just says basically you have the financial assets.

Damon Christenson23:51

If you if you lost a little bit of revenue, you have financial assets that would help to support the loss of that.

Damon Christenson23:58

And on the right side is a very similar ratio.

Damon Christenson24:02

It's the extent to which financial assets could support a loss of tax revenue.

Damon Christenson24:07

So it isolates tax revenue and says, all right, how much, how long could we last if we had to, you know, if there was a significant change in our tax revenue?

Damon Christenson24:14

And indeed, there's about two and a half dollars for every one dollar of taxes.

Damon Christenson24:23

And both are relatively close, at least in 2022, to the median.

Damon Christenson24:32

Couple more ratios for you.

Damon Christenson24:35

Own source revenue to taxes.

Damon Christenson24:37

So own source revenue are those uh is is revenue other than taxation, such as user fees, sales of services.

Damon Christenson24:46

We provide services for fire protection to our surrounding First Nations.

Damon Christenson24:50

So it's that, it's penalties, it's penalties and fines and any kind of other uh revenue compared to the taxation.

Damon Christenson24:58

So how much of our revenue is coming from own source services like that, and how much is taxation?

Damon Christenson25:03

And again, you can see that in 2023 we're really close to the median um uh across our history.

Damon Christenson25:11

Public debt charges to revenue, the right hand chart there, View Royal has a very low um debt structure, about 0.8 of a percent of total revenue is required for debt interest payments.

Damon Christenson25:25

So it's very, very low.

Damon Christenson25:26

We have uh a large unused debt capacity.

Damon Christenson25:30

If we needed to borrow, we could.

Sid Tobias25:33

I do have a a question, if you'll entertain it, Don.

Sid Tobias25:36

What are the big ticket items right now that uh that we're kind of servicing?

Sid Tobias25:41

Would that still be the fire hall and maybe the um bridge over the gorge, or what are the what are we servicing right now?

Sid Tobias25:49

For debt.

Damon Christenson25:50

Yeah.

Damon Christenson25:50

All of the debt is related to the public safety building, the land and the building itself.

Damon Christenson25:55

Yes.

Damon Christenson25:56

Okay, thank you.

Speaker_Unknown25:56

Yeah.

Damon Christenson26:03

So next we're going to look at statement C, which is the consolidated statement of change in net financial assets.

Damon Christenson26:11

So it looks at excuse me, it looks at what changes uh happened between 2022 and 2023 just in regards to our net financial assets, that top part of the first statement that we looked at.

Damon Christenson26:29

We take the surplus uh in from 2023 of 7.4 million, and we take out all the things that affect equity, anything to do with our tangible capital assets, to isolate the effect for net financial assets.

Damon Christenson26:42

And the the net result is that net financial assets increased nearly $8 million.

Damon Christenson26:49

And that makes sense because we know that more than half of that is the result of cash from that growing communities fund infusion of 4.6 million, right?

Damon Christenson26:58

So that kind of makes sense that it's a little bit higher.

Damon Christenson27:01

Uh, you know, it's almost double that of what it was last year.

Damon Christenson27:04

So it kind of makes sense in that context.

Damon Christenson27:10

So we'll look at statement D, which focuses more on cash flows and and uh the result uh at the end of the year for our uh cash flows.

Damon Christenson27:20

We look at uh the cash.

Damon Christenson27:22

Oh, I need to go back.

Damon Christenson27:25

We look at the cash position, and it's influenced, of course, by things like changes in receivables, in payables, in deferred revenue, and other balance sheet items.

Damon Christenson27:34

And uh statement D accounts for all of these changes and eliminates any non cash items so that we can isolate the effect of cash.

Damon Christenson27:42

And regular what we find is that regular operations accounted for nearly 15 million of the change in cash.

Damon Christenson27:49

$3 million then was spent on capital acquisitions, and three uh $300,000, just a little more than $300,000 was spent on reducing the debt.

Damon Christenson27:59

So the result at the end of the day was an increase of cash and cash equivalents of nearly $12 million.

Damon Christenson28:07

These funds, of course, are held in an interest bearing bank accounts or in MFA investments.

Damon Christenson28:14

And I'll just remind you that of the total $49 million that we have at just we had December 31st, it does include all of the reserve funds, all of the accounts, any deposits from developers that are refundable.

Damon Christenson28:28

So it's not all of that money is ours, and any unspent DCCs.

Damon Christenson28:38

If you remember this presentation from last year, I love the notes.

Damon Christenson28:43

If you look at nothing else, because everything else is numbers, numbers don't tell the story like the notes do.

Damon Christenson28:44

We love the notes.

Damon Christenson28:52

And if you don't want to read all of the notes, I encourage you to at least read note 10.

Damon Christenson28:57

And we're going to talk about that in a few minutes.

Damon Christenson28:59

But notes are very important because they do tell the story.

Damon Christenson29:03

They tell you what happened throughout the year, and they provide additional detailed breakdown that helps you understand those bigger numbers.

Damon Christenson29:15

Note 10.

Damon Christenson29:16

This one we're going to spend just a few more minutes on.

Damon Christenson29:21

Note 10.

Damon Christenson29:22

I want you to draw your attention right to the bottom of this slide where it says the difference is that 7.4 million.

Damon Christenson29:29

We've seen that number right at the top of the presentation.

Damon Christenson29:32

This is the difference between accumulated surplus last year to this.

Damon Christenson29:37

It's also the net result of operating on statement B.

Damon Christenson29:42

So this is our surplus.

Damon Christenson29:44

So this note you'll see the bottom of the column 2023, 150 million.

Damon Christenson29:50

That's our accumulated surplus.

Damon Christenson29:52

This is what makes up that accumulated surplus.

Damon Christenson29:56

So if anybody asks you how much we have in a particular reserve or in casino revenue, this is where you go.

Damon Christenson30:03

This is the note that tells you all of that.

Damon Christenson30:08

At the top, equity and tangible capital assets, which of course is not cash.

Damon Christenson30:13

That's what we have in sewer pipes in the ground and in buildings and in vehicles, right?

Damon Christenson30:19

This will change as we acquire or dispose of assets, as we record amortization and as we pay off debt or incur new debt.

Damon Christenson30:27

So that there is a slight decress, decrease, which again would be indicative to me that we are just barely or not quite keeping up with our uh assets in terms of replacing them as fast as we're being amortized.

Damon Christenson30:48

Casino revenue is the next one, and it increased by $145,000, which in this context really isn't a lot of money.

Damon Christenson30:55

What that should tell you is that we're spending it almost as fast as we get it.

Damon Christenson30:59

Which is there's nothing wrong with that.

Damon Christenson31:01

That's what it's for, I suppose.

Damon Christenson31:04

But uh I I will refer you to the financial plan, which has a five year forward forecast of where that where that is gonna happen, you know, where that money is gonna go, predicated on on the continuance of casino revenue.

Damon Christenson31:19

So I I do keep a close eye on that for sure.

Damon Christenson31:24

We did receive, we predicted two million dollars in casino revenue, and we received 1.96.

Damon Christenson31:31

So pretty close.

Damon Christenson31:32

So I'm I was really happy about that.

Damon Christenson31:34

And we used 1.8 million or just over.

Damon Christenson31:38

Community works fund, the the gas tax um has its own note uh as note 11 that tells you a little bit more about what was received and what was spent.

Damon Christenson31:49

It did increase about $400,000 as uh, but we received uh just over half a million dollars and we spent a million dollars on projects, uh, and we also earned interest.

Damon Christenson32:02

The interest is retained in the community works fund as well for the purposes according to the grant.

Damon Christenson32:11

Unrestricted surplus.

Damon Christenson32:13

We're going to pause on this number for just a little bit as it went from about uh nearly six million to seven million.

Damon Christenson32:20

So the increase in unrestricted accumulated surplus increased 1.1 or nearly 1.2.

Damon Christenson32:27

This is kind of the unrestricted part of surplus that we rely on to pay our bills as we go without dipping into other funds, right?

Damon Christenson32:40

This is how we we pay our bills before we get to June or July two tax due date.

Damon Christenson32:48

Um this is what we rely on if we got a huge uh tax uh BC assessment supplementary assessment that was the wrong direction, and they're never the the right direction, uh the good direction, right, for View Royal.

Damon Christenson33:02

So it did it did increase by 1 million, and you you might think, well, that's an awful lot to miss by.

Damon Christenson33:09

But when you consider what's happened with interest rates, I do I I I would argue that almost all of this as a result of unanticipated interest earnings.

Damon Christenson33:21

So that's actually a good thing.

Damon Christenson33:24

It does include the component that West Shore Parks and Rec contributed to a surplus as well.

Damon Christenson33:31

They did have a little bit of a surplus, less than $100,000.

Damon Christenson33:35

And it is it is important to keep an eye on this number and just be aware be aware of it.

Damon Christenson33:45

This is why I did suspect that we were going to be in this neighborhood, you know, kind of later on in the budget process.

Damon Christenson33:52

And this is why I wasn't too worried about the fact that we were going to be using some surplus to help uh support the tax rate.

Damon Christenson34:03

So the rest of the note there, the bottom half of it uh talks about all of the other reserves, and there are bylaws for all of these reserves.

Damon Christenson34:11

So they are restricted, right?

Damon Christenson34:14

In the sense that we we um have to plan for their use and they need to be used.

Damon Christenson34:20

These monies are used for specific purposes set out by bylaw.

Damon Christenson34:24

Most of the reserves did increase.

Damon Christenson34:27

Uh, community amenity contributions increased.

Damon Christenson34:29

Of course, you see the growing communities reserve there of 4.9 by the time we added interest to it, and we are required to attribute it interest specifically to that reserve.

Damon Christenson34:39

Uh, the reserves that decreased were the machinery and equipment reserve and the sewer system reserve.

Damon Christenson34:44

That's because DCCs are a deferred revenue.

Damon Christenson34:45

You might be missing DCCs from this list.

Damon Christenson34:51

They're accounted for just slightly differently, and you can see details about DCCs in note six.

Damon Christenson35:08

Schedules one and two are very much like your income statement.

Damon Christenson35:13

The difference is that on statement B, our statement of operations, the expense side of it is by General Government Services Protective Services, and so on.

Damon Christenson35:26

Whereas Schedule One puts those functions across the in the column headers and describes the expenses by what did we spend it on?

Damon Christenson35:37

So you'll see labor and benefits separated out there, the goods and services, amortization, and so on.

Damon Christenson35:43

So you get a little bit of a different view of your revenue and expense, a little bit more details, and as well then compares it to Schedule 2, which is the prior year.

Damon Christenson35:54

So you can kind of look back and forth to see what changed from one year to the next.

Damon Christenson36:00

And of course, we include budget at that same level of detail.

Damon Christenson36:07

Sure.

Gery Lemon36:10

Is there an ability to check an RE report like for Essex, for example, at any given time?

Gery Lemon36:15

I just know when I work for the C or D in my department, we were able to do it on an RE just for our department.

Gery Lemon36:20

Is that a possibility or not?

Gery Lemon36:22

I I'm I'm I'm missing you want to look for which for Well just say at the end of any end of March, just throw that month out.

Gery Lemon36:29

And we wanted to see where we were standing in our R and E at that point.

Gery Lemon36:32

Oh I could ask, you could ask you, right?

Damon Christenson36:35

Certainly.

Damon Christenson36:35

Yeah.

Damon Christenson36:36

That is our budget variance dashboard that we have on our website and it's updated weekly.

Damon Christenson36:43

There will be a little bit of a lag between you know when invoices are received and posted and that sort of thing, and payroll is is actually run.

Damon Christenson36:51

But certainly um the dashboard on the website will give you an idea of our operating expenses and revenues and where we are at at any given point in time, and there's history back for five years.

Gery Lemon37:08

Staff only, or is or is it public have access to that?

Damon Christenson37:11

They wouldn't.

Damon Christenson37:11

It's on our public website.

Damon Christenson37:12

Really?

Damon Christenson37:12

Okay.

Damon Christenson37:13

Absolutely.

Damon Christenson37:13

Okay, good, thanks.

Damon Christenson37:17

The last schedule is the schedule of tangible capital assets, and and you will see the um type of assets across the top.

Damon Christenson37:29

And I realize it's very small print on on this particular screen, but on paper form uh and um hopefully for the viewers at home, you can see a little bit there.

Damon Christenson37:38

What you're looking at there is that um we do have our cost value for our assets is a hundred and eighty million.

Damon Christenson37:51

I do want to remind council that this does not directly relate to our asset management plan or the asset management strategy.

Damon Christenson38:02

This is what the assets cost when we bought them.

Damon Christenson38:06

This is not what it will cost to replace them.

Damon Christenson38:10

Think about, you know, for this building, for example, I can't tell you just off the top of my head, how much this building cost when we built it, but that was several years ago.

Damon Christenson38:20

And I suspect it's going to be a lot more when we go to replace it at some point in the future, right?

Damon Christenson38:25

So I just want to keep this schedule in context with what we mean by cost when we're relating to tangible capital assets on the financial statements.

Damon Christenson38:39

So we look specifically at tangible capital assets net book value, which is what is left of the cost value after we subtract amortization, and we look to see how much of our assets remain unamortized.

Damon Christenson38:56

And in 2023, that was about 68%.

Damon Christenson38:59

So that still is indicative that View Royal is relatively young.

Damon Christenson39:04

That's a that's a positive thing.

Damon Christenson39:06

It means we have time, as we've talked about when we talked about the asset management plan and strategy.

Damon Christenson39:14

But I don't like the direction that these blue bars are indicating on this particular slide because it's going down.

Damon Christenson39:22

It means that our assets are amortizing more quickly than we are replacing them.

Damon Christenson39:28

That's what this slide tells you.

Damon Christenson39:30

And we we know that, and that is why I'm very pleased that council chose to support the asset management strategy in this year's budget and put money aside to help support the replacement of the assets in the future.

Damon Christenson39:45

So that that is encouraging.

Damon Christenson39:49

Government transfers to total revenue is an indicator, and you'll see a sharp spike on the right blue bar of that right-hand chart, and that is the growing communities fund.

Damon Christenson39:59

So what this what this slide shows you is compares it isolates out how much money do we get from the federal government, provincial government primarily.

Damon Christenson40:10

And how does that compare to our total revenue?

Damon Christenson40:12

How much of our total revenue is coming from gifts?

Damon Christenson40:16

And up until 2022, it was, I would say, a small part of our revenue.

Damon Christenson40:23

And in 2023, it's a bigger part of our revenue.

Damon Christenson40:27

And that's to be expected given the growing communities fund.

Damon Christenson40:29

And I would expect that by comparison next year's chart.

Damon Christenson40:33

When you see this chart, you're going to see all of the other municipalities have a similar spike.

Damon Christenson40:38

So we're we're in good company there, and we have put that in a reserve, and we are making plans to spend that money appropriately as we go forward according to the conditions of that grant.

Damon Christenson40:50

So I'm gonna pause there for any questions about my presentation before I turn it over to our auditor, Corey Vanderhorst.

Damon Christenson40:56

Thank you for waiting through my presentation, Corey.

Damon Christenson40:58

And he will he has a much shorter presentation about his audit findings and his audit, I'm happy to say.

Sid Tobias41:04

Thanks, Don.

Sid Tobias41:05

Go ahead, Don.

Gery Lemon41:07

There's a line item there for people that prepay their or prepay their taxes on a monthly or weekly basis.

Gery Lemon41:13

And uh did they gather interest on that or or not?

Damon Christenson41:16

Indeed, they do.

Damon Christenson41:17

Yes, yes.

Damon Christenson41:18

We do have a bylaw that um determines how much interest is, and it does float as the interest rate goes.

Damon Christenson41:24

So um, yes, the uh uh it's not stellar.

Damon Christenson41:28

I wouldn't use it as an investment, but certainly we are very happy when people prepay their taxes.

Damon Christenson41:34

Basically, the it starts in August and ends in June, and you have 10 months to uh put away a monthly payment on your property taxes, and it makes it a lot simpler in on July 2 when you have to pay, and you just pay if there's any a little bit if there's any difference, because we don't know exactly how much your property taxes are going to be um in it that far in advance, but there may be either a little credit or a little amount owning when you get to July 2, and it's it's a very helpful tool, I think, for most people.

Don Brown42:08

Well, I'm glad you got to the story bit.

Don Brown42:10

Thank you.

Don Brown42:13

Um, to the point of um property taxes, and you know, might have been reflected there.

Don Brown42:21

I'm wondering how much deferred taxes, because many, many people defer their taxes, how how how that oper that affects our operations.

Damon Christenson42:33

I would say that it affects our operations in a very positive way, because the fact that that program is offered means that the province is paying our taxpayers' taxes on their behalf.

Damon Christenson42:48

So rather than seeing, let's say a pensioner on a fixed income struggle to pay their taxes, it'll the province pays their taxes for them.

Damon Christenson42:59

We get the money when it's due on July 2.

Damon Christenson43:04

And yet the homeowner isn't suffering by having to come up with that money until the home is is sold.

Damon Christenson43:12

So I would say it's a very positive program.

Damon Christenson43:14

I don't have the dollar amount for how much that represents, but I believe it's about 250 of our of our constituents use that program.

Damon Christenson43:21

So it's not a high number.

Don Brown43:30

I believe it.

Don Brown43:31

That and I'm I'm glad that the money shows up on time here.

Don Brown43:34

So thank you.

Sid Tobias43:37

Hi Don, I've got uh two questions.

Sid Tobias43:40

If there are no others, I think I'll go to John after I have uh a couple here.

Sid Tobias43:44

Uh one is uh for our amortization for assets, does that include big things like the six-mile bridge or um is that part of it?

Sid Tobias43:53

I know there's a uh shared ownership potentially there.

Sid Tobias43:57

And if you don't know right off the top of your head, that's okay.

Damon Christenson44:03

In fact, it was interesting.

Damon Christenson44:04

Uh, bridges came up in our discussion uh with the manager of accounting myself this morning about in relation to insurance.

Damon Christenson44:10

And there you're right, there are some bridges that are shared ownership, the Craigflower Bridge being one of them as well.

Damon Christenson44:16

So yeah, um certainly tangible all tangible capital assets um according to uh accounting uh standards are gonna be included in in that number.

Sid Tobias44:26

Great.

Sid Tobias44:27

And my next question was for our cycle for auditors is it a two-year contract, a three-year contract?

Sid Tobias44:34

Do we go year by year?

Damon Christenson44:35

I'm just curious about uh how how we go about that because obviously we want some consistency but we don't want lock in either we offered the audit contract up I believe it was Corey may correct me here I believe it was 2018.

Damon Christenson44:53

So it has been about five years.

Damon Christenson44:56

We typically do a longer term being you know, three to five years contract just because of the cost, not in terms of real dollars, as much as staff time and effort to understand make the switch.

Damon Christenson45:14

There's a lot of synergies to be found by having the same auditor from one year to the other.

Damon Christenson45:21

They don't have to learn what you are all about and how you do things and your system of internal controls, for example.

Damon Christenson45:27

So uh we don't have any specific plans at this moment to go to RFP.

Damon Christenson45:33

Uh we we do go year to year, um, but it is something that that uh is under consideration.

Damon Christenson45:39

And certainly our purchasing policy would allow for uh, you know, continuing on the basis that that there are some savings to be realized um by sticking with the same um auditor.

Sid Tobias45:54

Perfect.

Sid Tobias45:54

Thank you.

Sid Tobias45:55

If there's no other questions, I'll go to Councillor Rogers.

Sid Tobias45:57

Counselor Rogers, please.

John Rogers45:59

Yes.

John Rogers45:59

Thank you for the um uh presentation.

John Rogers45:59

Thank you very much.

John Rogers46:03

Um Don, I'd like to go to um uh the part you don't like, page 26, the one before.

John Rogers46:14

Yes, the uh the one on the left.

John Rogers46:16

Um the um the fact that the um the bar is on a downward trend, uh which you don't like, uh we are making a contribution, or did we did in this uh fiscal year?

Damon Christenson46:30

But the contribution that we did make, um, how much has that uh been to um if we saw that on the screen, uh would uh stop the um decline or does it so I think um if if I'm understanding the question correct uh you you you are right this chart does not reflect the amount of dollars we've put into reserve dedicated to future asset replacement so that your your point is is is true that this chart does not reflect that what would it look like if it did well it's I'm I'm not I'd have to think about how to how to reflect that because you know the the contributions in reserves are meant to fund future assets and this of course is a look back.

Damon Christenson47:26

Um if I could over overlay this with our capital reserves, then maybe that's something that I can I can look and see what you know what that would look like for a future.

John Rogers47:36

Yeah, I guess it's um it's a long term viability as um uh while we're relatively young as the pro uh as a municipality, um we still uh have assets that are uh going to be needing replacement and we have to uh um and I think that's the whole initiative is that we start contributing and and planning for that future.

John Rogers47:55

Um and so yes, we've done that for 2024, and and how much and you know, would we have to anticipate uh the taxpayers being aware and contributing to make sure that uh we stop this downward trend and can plateau and start climbing it up.

John Rogers48:11

Is that a one, two percent increase every year?

Damon Christenson48:17

You know, certainly we, you know, we can talk about this for sure uh uh again as we do at budget time.

Damon Christenson48:23

This, of course, uh, you know, the only thing that's gonna drive the blue bars up in this chart is the actual implementation of new capital assets.

Damon Christenson48:32

That's that's what's gonna kind of drive this up.

Damon Christenson48:35

Um so as we as and and those projects, you know, kind of like this significant ones are are discrete, right?

Damon Christenson48:42

As we as we add in, for example, you know, the six mile roundabout, that's gonna spike this one up.

Damon Christenson48:47

It'll be interesting to see what what um you know this chart will look like next year once we've made some significant investments on the ground in capital assets as we go forward.

John Rogers48:58

Yeah.

John Rogers48:59

Uh your other comment and um is um with respect to casino we're and I think you said uh we're spending it as fast as we're getting it.

John Rogers49:07

Um and and I think one of your cautions um that we've and we've actually have it as policy is to start um slowly uh putting the um parts and rack onto um uh taxpayers opposed to uh uh relying a hundred percent on casino um would that help alleviate this um this problem of spending as fast as we're getting a question.

Damon Christenson49:34

Certainly uh it it it is my recommendation that at some point in time um and and certainly we have scheduled in the current financial plan for that to start in 2026 to wean ourselves off of casino revenue for the purposes of supporting a significant operational cost being West Shore Parks and Rec.

Damon Christenson49:53

And if we were to take that the the money instead of spending casino revenue on West Shore Parks and Rec, if we invested it instead in of into assets and supporting our asset management plan, we would see uh a a change in this as well.

Damon Christenson50:08

I think that is something it's a good goal to work towards.

John Rogers50:11

Yes, thank you.

John Rogers50:12

I agree.

Sid Tobias50:15

Thank you, Councillor Rogers.

Sid Tobias50:17

If there's no other questions, I think that's audit time, probably.

Damon Christenson50:21

Thank you, Corey.

Damon Christenson50:22

Over to you.

Cory Vanderhorst50:24

Thank you, Don.

Cory Vanderhorst50:26

Hello to the Mayor and Council.

Cory Vanderhorst50:27

Thank you for inviting me here today.

Cory Vanderhorst50:28

I'm just gonna switch over my.

Cory Vanderhorst50:43

Great.

Cory Vanderhorst50:43

Thank you.

Cory Vanderhorst50:45

So uh thank you, Don, and before I uh get going, a big thank you to Don and Steven and DAF throughout the town for going through the audit process with us.

Cory Vanderhorst50:55

We really do appreciate all their assistance and the audit goes very smoothly from our perspective.

Cory Vanderhorst51:00

As Don said, I have a short presentation, talk about the audit findings and results, and then I would be happy to uh answer some questions at the end.

Cory Vanderhorst51:10

So uh diving in, um we are providing what we call an unqualified audit opinion, so a clean audit opinion.

Cory Vanderhorst51:19

Now we are satisfied the financial statements that Don just went through are presented fairly in all material respects, um, in accordance with Canadian public sector accounting standards.

Cory Vanderhorst51:30

Ready to sign the report.

Cory Vanderhorst51:32

Uh uh after Mayor and Council approves the financial statements, I've got an audit report ready to send to Don.

Cory Vanderhorst51:37

We have all the last few steps wrapped up this morning of the audit.

Cory Vanderhorst51:42

Um and this was also mentioned by Don earlier, but uh just a refresher that when we're going through the audit process, we start by looking at the controls uh in place at the town, make sure you're getting accurate financial reporting.

Cory Vanderhorst51:54

Are they designed appropriately, implemented to safeguard cash and other assets to get you that accurate financial reporting?

Cory Vanderhorst51:59

Are they operating effectively throughout the entire year?

Cory Vanderhorst52:01

We don't specifically test um effectiveness.

Cory Vanderhorst52:07

But we look specifically at how they're designed and are they implemented properly.

Cory Vanderhorst52:11

And then we look at the year imbalances and we sample those transactions throughout the year to form our audit opinion.

Cory Vanderhorst52:17

Okay, we don't look at everything.

Cory Vanderhorst52:20

To drive our audit testing and to do our work, one of the most important numbers is this materiality and this concept of materiality in the audit.

Cory Vanderhorst52:28

Uh so we've used the number of $1.1 million dollars for 2023.

Cory Vanderhorst52:32

That's around 5% of what we call your normalized annual revenue.

Cory Vanderhorst52:36

And when I say normalize, we would take things like the growing community fund that doesn't uh you don't receive every year and take that out of our calculation and try and get to sort of what's what's the regular uh activity level.

Cory Vanderhorst52:48

So we look at everything that's above that $1.1 million dollar mark.

Cory Vanderhorst52:51

That's uh any large capital projects and grants, and then below that dollar amount, we sample transactions.

Cory Vanderhorst52:58

If we found anything that we disagreed with management on, I couldn't give you a clean audit opinion if those errors or those differences and disagreements were either an individual item of over $1.1 million, or if there were several items that added up to over that amount of $1.1 million, that wouldn't be able to give you a clean audit opinion.

Cory Vanderhorst53:17

But happy to say there aren't any of those items to report.

Cory Vanderhorst53:20

Uh, and we're very happy with uh a clean audit opinion this year.

Cory Vanderhorst53:24

There was no limitations placed on the performance of our audit.

Cory Vanderhorst53:28

Uh, your staff has everything dialed in in terms of their audit preparations and getting things ready for us and and drafting the financial statements for you.

Cory Vanderhorst53:37

No significant unadjusted amounts to bring to council's attention.

Cory Vanderhorst53:40

We didn't find any irregularities or unusual related party transactions.

Cory Vanderhorst53:44

We're not specifically looking for fraud.

Cory Vanderhorst53:46

Our our job on the financial statement audit side is to make sure the numbers on the page are accurate.

Cory Vanderhorst53:52

But if something came to our attention, I am required to report it out to council.

Cory Vanderhorst53:56

And if that happens, we always would ask for an in-camera meeting, of course.

Cory Vanderhorst54:00

But I have nothing to bring to council's attention here tonight.

Cory Vanderhorst54:02

So that's a good news item.

Cory Vanderhorst54:05

Uh another comment there that the there the town does not have an internal auditor or internal audit function.

Cory Vanderhorst54:11

Uh it may have checks and balances of internal control, but no specific internal audit function as a discrete uh you know activity or something where that we, as your external auditor, would be able to rely on it.

Cory Vanderhorst54:26

Um and we are required to review your annual report when it's available before it gets filed to make sure the financial statements are accurately reproduced.

Cory Vanderhorst54:33

So we always get a draft copy of that, have a look through and make sure that all the pages are there and and and nothing's been missed.

Cory Vanderhorst54:42

Again, a big thank you to uh Dawn and Stephen and staff throughout the town.

Cory Vanderhorst54:48

Uh and I'll I'll wrap by uh confirming our independence.

Cory Vanderhorst54:52

So we didn't do any other projects with the town that would impair my ability to give you an independent audit opinion.

Cory Vanderhorst54:58

You know, that's no consulting projects or or other things during uh 2023 and all the way up to today.

Cory Vanderhorst55:06

So thank you very much.

Cory Vanderhorst55:07

It did promise a short presentation.

Cory Vanderhorst55:09

Uh I will turn the sharing off.

Cory Vanderhorst55:10

I would be happy to answer any questions about the audit result, the audit process uh or the audit report.

Sid Tobias55:19

Thank you, Corey.

Sid Tobias55:20

Any questions for the auditor?

Sid Tobias55:23

Squinting to see if Councilor Rogers has his hand up, but I can't see whether it does or not.

Sid Tobias55:28

Uh I think there's no questions, Corey, so thank you very much.

Cory Vanderhorst55:31

Great.

Cory Vanderhorst55:32

Thank you very much, Mr.

Cory Vanderhorst55:33

Mayor.

Cory Vanderhorst55:33

Cheers.

Sid Tobias55:37

Don, does that uh complete everything?

Sid Tobias55:38

But we've got a uh um a recommendation that we have to consider so that council accept the 2023 audited consolidated financial statements.

Sid Tobias55:51

Um further questions or discussions?

Sid Tobias55:56

Okay, uh moved by councillor Brown, seconded by counselor Lemon, because your finger was on the button.

Sid Tobias56:01

Um all those in favor?

Sid Tobias56:04

Any opposed?

Sid Tobias56:06

Seeing none opposed, motion carries unanimously.

Sid Tobias56:09

Um thank you, Don.

Sid Tobias56:11

And I think that brings us down tax to bylaws.

Sid Tobias56:17

Um agenda item 10, tax rates by law uh 1133 2024.

Sid Tobias56:24

Um, and that's the bylaw uh levy rates municipal uh regional district regional hospital uh district uh purposes for the year 2024.

Sid Tobias56:35

John, did you want to speak to that?

Sid Tobias56:37

We already have okay.

Sid Tobias56:39

Uh any further questions for Don on it.

Sid Tobias56:45

My computer moves very, very slowly.

Sid Tobias56:48

Um so uh can I get a motion to adopt uh bylaw one one three three moved by councilor uh lemon, seconded by councillor Brown, all those in favor?

Sid Tobias57:03

Any opposed?

Sid Tobias57:04

Seeing none opposed motion carries.

Sid Tobias57:07

Uh and I think that brings us to question period.

Sid Tobias57:12

And I don't think Donna has any questions in the room.

Sid Tobias57:14

Carl, we got anybody with questions on the phone.

Sid Tobias57:14

Mayor Tobias, we have no callers.

Sid Tobias57:22

Thank you, Carl.

Sid Tobias57:24

So can I get a move to terminate?

Sid Tobias57:27

And we'll take a slight pause, potentially a bio break.

Sid Tobias57:31

And so we can advance into the next council of the whole meeting.

Sid Tobias57:35

Can I get a motion to terminate, please?

Sid Tobias57:37

So moved.

Sid Tobias57:38

Moved by Councillor McKenzie, seconded by Councilor Lemon.

Sid Tobias57:40

All those in favor?

Sid Tobias57:42

Any opposed?

Sid Tobias57:43

I think Councilor Rogers, you just stay tuned.

Sid Tobias57:46

It'll just take a second to get uh swapped over, and then we can uh start the council of the whole