Meeting Overview
The Committee of the Whole meeting addressed the 2022 West Shore Parks and Recreation Budget and recommended funding for an additional RCMP officer starting November 1, 2022, due to high caseloads. Council discussed accelerating the adoption of the BC Energy Step Code and received the Draft Community Climate Action Strategy, which was subsequently forwarded to two advisory committees for feedback. Development applications for 3 Helmcken Road (Mixed Residential DP), 221 Atkins Road (Subdivision DP), and 2679 Myra Place (DVP/Boundary Adjustment) were received for information.
Key Decisions
- Council recommends approving the West Shore Parks and Recreation budget for 2022.
- The Committee recommends adding and funding one RCMP officer to the detachment, dedicated to complex cases like domestic violence and sexual assault.
- The verbal RCMP report was formally received.
- The Energy Step Code report was received for information.
- The Financial Plan Insights Dashboard report was received.
Transcript
1904 segmentsThank you.
Good afternoon, everyone.
I'll call the committee of the whole meeting to order and start by recognizing the Esquimalt Songhees nation upon whose traditional territories View Royal sits.
And the first thing I need is an approval of the agenda, please.
Second.
Thank you.
It's moved and seconded by Councillor Rogers and Lemon.
All in favor, opposed, that's carried.
We have the minutes under 3.8.
Moving option.
Thank you.
Second.
Moved and seconded by Councillor Kowalewich.
Any comments, corrections?
No.
Good.
All in favor.
Opposed.
That's carried.
And so we're going straight to um so I didn't do my public participation book.
So we have one per petition in delegation this afternoon from the West Shore Parks in REC.
And after that, we will have public participation, and they'll also be part public participation this evening.
So if you wish to call in, you're gonna dial 778-402-9227.
And when prompted, enter conference ID 605-307-000 pound.
And at the appropriate time in the agenda, I will then announce the last four digits of your phone number, ask you to mute the live webcast to avoid feedback, ask you to not use speaker phone to ensure sound quality, and ask that you unmute yourself by pressing star six.
And if you can begin with your name and address, please, for the record.
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So public participation for items this afternoon will come up after the West Shore budget presentation.
And then for this evening, we'll come as soon as we reconvene at seven o'clock, basically.
And then there is also a question period at the very end of the meeting where the public can also call in and ask a question on any topic.
And with that, I'm going to welcome Grant from West Shore, who's going to walk us through the budget.
Great.
Thank you, your worship and counsel for inviting us to present the West Shore 2022 budget and requisition request.
Can everyone see my screen okay?
We can.
Great.
Um, I on the call, I also have Wei Wu, um, who is our new finance and administration manager.
Uh, she just started on January 5th, so she gets the pass on the presentation today.
But I wanted her to uh get a chance to experience the uh the budget presentation and put some faces to names when she hears counselors' names or and so on.
So she's on the call.
Uh our presentation today will take you through a high-level summary of the 2021 financial projections, the five-year financial plan for 2022 through 2026, the 2022 capital projects, major expense increases for 2022, and the of course the requisition impact for all of these on each of the municipalities.
For 2021, we have projected revenues to surpass budgeted levels by 10% or 110% of budget and expenditures to be 2% less than budgeted.
A number of factors have led to these, most notably the continued tremendous demand for child care programs and summer camps and the hosting of a number of filming days for the Netflix production of MAID.
The key improvements over the budget for 2021, as well as a shortfall, one of the shortfalls that were listed are in the chart on the left.
So, as mentioned, we had the Netflix revenue, which was unexpected and definitely beneficial early on in the year when we were still in uncertain times as far as COVID closures went, so that went a long way to help us generate some revenue to offset some costing.
Both indoor and outdoor field rentals actually have surpassed by quite a bit.
I'll go into it a little bit a bit further.
But as you recall, we had quite a conservative budget and discussions with the board as at the time of the fall when we were preparing the 2021 budget and going into 2021, there were still a lot of COVID related restrictions going on, as we had for the beginning of this year and a little bit right now as well.
And so we weren't really sure where where those would go, how they would affect us, and what kind of changes would need to be there.
So we put quite a conservative budget, but when it came to outdoor events in particular, or not events but sporting events, um, there was certainly a spectatorship uh restriction that occurred, but not the bookings.
And so our fields have stayed in high use um pretty much all year, and um so definitely received more revenue and and rentals like they were pre-COVID.
So um what that's one of the areas that surpassed budget.
Um the pool is operated um better than than expected um through the year of a net um decreased cost of just shy of 110,000 for the year.
A lot of that is was a combination of things.
We've had some staff shortages that have caused some savings, but as well as once the pool opened, which was very uh generous of all the ownership to put um the restart funds towards this to get it back open, was definitely in high demand.
We knew when we were closed for much of 2020, but um it was definitely there.
Licensed care programs is mentioned, the expansion of upstairs with that uh the renovation to the new child care center has been really high.
And the golf courses remained high.
That was high the previous year as well, as golf was one of those ex those activities that um met all the all the demands of the restrictions as far as it was uh small groups, it's outdoors and so on.
So the the demand for the golf is has really had a big a big boost.
The only area where we saw um a significant shortfall from from budget was in the weight room.
A lot of that uh was when we were able to open, there was a hesitancy.
I think a lot of people, as anyone who tried to buy home gym equipment, would have seen people created their own gyms in their basements and their garages and so on.
And uh we didn't have have the return as quickly as we had expected um for the summer.
Um by we hit by the time we hit into the fall, we were actually starting to see returns and and um weight room usage, much like pre-COVID.
So we were seeing seeing that occur.
And then unfortunately, right in December, they got closed down.
Some of our evening slots are full, but there are restrictions on the numbers we have right now according to the current PHO order.
They're now back open.
Numbers are growing.
As I mentioned, you recall may recall, we purposely had that conservative budget.
A lot of those things were allowed us to open a little bit earlier, so it allowed us to generate more revenue closer to pre-COVID numbers versus what we had budgeted for the year.
In addition to this, I mentioned the COVID restart grant funds that were used to bring the pool back open that was closed for much of 2020.
This helped supplement the uh so there wasn't the tax effect of running that facility, as well as some of the other operations and programs that were eliminated due to COVID-19, such as low-cost programs and vacancies in finance and maintenance, as well as new sanitization equipment such as foggers and whole room sanitizers.
It was mentioned at the time that if not fully required, the remaining funds would be deferred to 2022 as the recovery from COVID was going to take more than one year.
With that in mind, if you see the graft on the right hand side, 209,513 of the projected surplus we've identified as remaining COVID restart funds.
And our budget includes deferring these to 2022 to offset some of those extra costs of bringing the pool back online.
And if you recall, for 2021, the entire $690,000 cost for the pool was covered by these funds.
So that's a 9.4% requisition increase of bringing that back into it.
And so by deferring some of these funds, we've dropped those down into it.
So it's a 4% reduction of the overall requisition, which you'll see later when I break it down as 5.14% for 2022.
2022 revenue expectations have been increased to align with what we realized between June and December of 2021.
Brings the society closer to the 6.4 million that was expected in 2020 pre-COVID before being hit with COVID.
The 2023 through 2026 growth is a result of an average of a 2% fee increase supplied each year as well as 2% growth applied each year.
And please note the deferral of the COVID restart funds right at the top of there under 2022 to offset some of those expenses.
Of course, as we as we try to generate and are able to open up programs and run more programs, staffing costs go up, utility costs go up, supply costs go up.
And also we we've got bargained wages that increase on an annual basis as well, utility increases that go up, the return to normal staffing levels, and the return to the established capital replacement reserve contribution levels.
You may recall that for 2021 to make to get the budget approved where we were, the board and staff worked together and reduced the contribution to capital, knowing that we would have to make a bounce back in the future to get those numbers back up.
I'll speak to this a little bit later as well, just in regards to our capital works reserve.
The result for 2022 is mentioned is an increase of 5.14%.
You will see that we expect to return to historical annual lifts of two to two and a half percent by 2024.
And of course, that is assuming that closures and capacity limits are behind us.
So we have a little bit of higher increase for 2023 in our projections moving forward, and that's just as we're making that steady recovery back to normal uh offerings and so on with the public.
The operating expense increases, some of the the key ones that are of a more of a non-discretionary nature.
We've got collective bargaining wages, $77,000 for salaries and $35,000 for auxiliary wages that increase for 2022.
We have hydro rate increases that of a value of approximately 21,000.
Parks water usage and rate increases of 19,000.
So a significant increase in the water rate, but also due to um expectations of what we've had some fairly drought, dry summers is we've had to normally we've got our ponds in the um golf course that collect water all winter, and we use those, but they're running out sooner in the year than than previously, and so our water or city water usage has gone up to water the greens and so on, as well as the fields.
Insurance premiums have taken quite a big jump of 35,000.
Um, garbage and sewer, and um for a total of 195,700 non-discretionary expenses or a 4.01% increase in operating expenses.
There are a number of major site maintenance replacements scheduled for 2022, um, which includes there's some lighting projects.
We've got some LED lighting replacements, um, pool filters, large field maintenance equipment, um, and a roof, among others.
Um, one of the key ones I wanted to speak to in there is we've listed the skate park under new initiatives, and funding for this is shown as grant and member contributions within the capital funding graph on the top right.
You'll see our our balancing or capital funding as we have 20,000 coming out of a fitness and equipment reserve, which we contribute 80,000 a year for.
So that goes up and down depending on what equipment needs to be replaced.
That grant and community member contributions, which right now we've got some donations are building, we've got uh some title sponsors that are interested, as well as we've applied for a federal infrastructure grant that would cover 49% of the project.
The remaining funding would come from a combination of those donations as mentioned and owner contributions.
Those owner contributions are still staying at the same amount that was presented before all the councils, I believe it was two years ago.
So we've still remained in that amount.
Unfortunately, the cost for the project keep growing.
At an owner's meeting in the fall, when I met with all of the mayors, we discussed this, gave them an update update on it.
At that meeting, the the owners indicated that there's definitely a strong desire to have this project go.
They see the need for the community.
It's a great location for it.
However, due to all sorts of different funding considerations as a result of COVID and other impacts, full funding wouldn't be an option.
But we're waiting for the results on that grant submission.
We've recently been updated that is still ongoing.
Unfortunately, they haven't made a decision yet, but we're not out of the the running so far.
But if it is unsuccessful, that we are to pursue another other financing to try to get this to come to fruition.
And so myself and with your CIOs have I've contacted our bank as far as looking at options, what that would be.
And I believe actually it was Mr.
Enema from View Royal actually contacted MFA to find out what that process would look like as far as if the loan came through through that aspect.
So we're definitely trying to get this going.
We've got it in the in here, so it's reflective in our financial plan is as um as the one of the the big discussions at the time was when it first came forward, this was about $350,000 less.
It's growing quickly in cost due to costs of supplies and so on, and everywhere is growing.
And the longer we wait and may price ourselves out of being able to actually do the projects, we're trying to get that um moved forward.
So as mentioned, just a bit of a breakdown on how what makes up that 5.14%.
So 1.42% or 69,000 is related to operating.
If you recall on a previous slide, it was upwards of 4%, was actually operating increases.
So we've been able to, through expectations on performance as well as fee increases, drop that increase in operating costs from just slightly over 4% to 1.42, a 2.26% increase for major repairs and maintenance expenses.
And then also at that owner's meeting in the fall, we discussed, which has come up every for a number of years, is the challenge we've got with our reserve and be the ability to maintain the facility.
We're quite strong operating, but we've got it's a large facility with very expensive equipment and that having that reserve and being able to maintain the asset infrastructure.
At that, there was the request by the ownership to add an additional 60,000.
And if we grow that as 60,000 per year, we're fully funded within 20 years.
So that's an additional 1.14%, which brought it up to the 5.14% for the year to be able to increase that contribution to capital.
As mentioned, just as a note, it would be an additional 4% on top of this, up to 9.14% if we didn't include that carry forward of those restart funds.
And a significant portion of that, as mentioned, is the pool due to the fact that the entire cost, 690,000 cost of that pool was covered, was outside of the requisition last year and part of those restart funds.
Converted assessments.5%.
And so you'll see you've actually had a bit of a reduction or certainly less growth in in your requisition amount as compared to the other ownership.
These are the individual requisition amounts for each owner.
As mentioned you'll see view roll is reduced by 1.38% or 10,547 for 2022.
Your assessment grew by by 0.5% versus the others at the average of 7.14 that's what leads to this.
So it's a much lower than the average which then reduces VROL share of the requisition um because it's below that average average amount the next two slides look at the per capita increases for each owner using the latest capital regional district statistics um view rurals is a decrease of point of 92 cents per resident for the year that estimated taxation impact based on your budgeted 2021 taxation impact is a reduction of uh 0.11 uh percent of the uh um from the previous year as far as the taxation goes related to West Shore Parks and Recreation Society for VROIL.
This slide looks at the capital works reserve forecast as been as I mentioned earlier and has been brought forward in previous years.
We continue to show a depletion of reserves in future years.
A big contributor to this is we had three years in a row where there was no requisition increase.
And so there wasn't an increased contribution to this as capital and of course buildings, roofs need to be repaired, and so on.
So that's a large driver to where this has happened.
Increase to contributions in this budget has moved the depleted out.
So last year we looked at being depleted in 2023.
We're now looking at depleting it in 2024.
We'll continue to submit increases to the reserve contributions each year as well as are working with a consultant.
This started in the fall, unfortunately has been delayed.
But with working on an asset management plan, that will be brought forward to the ownership to review and for consideration as far as trying to ensure we can get that funding to maintain our assets.
And furthermore, successful years like this last year with budgetary surpluses will continue to fund reserves as is shown on here in 2022.
You'll see a surplus that's related 2021 of the 346,000, and that contributes to this reserve.
So if we have performance that's better than expected, that continues to add to this as well.
The 2022 budget includes the application of these fees effective this coming September 2022.
Staff do a thorough comparison of all of our regional counterparts as well as the West Shore YMYWCA to ensure that we're in the running, is that we're not pricing ourselves out of the market.
Victoria is not all that big of a location.
If if we're significantly more expensive to use the pool as an example, someone will just drive to a squamoat, they'll drive to another area.
So we keep those in mind when we're doing our fees, as well as at the same time, we've taken an approach over the last few years to try to ensure we're increasing our fees at a similar rate to what the requisition increase is.
Right now it's been a bit smaller just as we're trying to grow, coming ourselves out of COVID, but we'll get back to that process where we're trying to spread the load of that increased costs between so we're equally spreading it over the users and the taxpayers to try to lower that burden.
Okay, thank you, Grant.
And that concludes um my presentation.
Questions?
Councillor Rogers?
Thank you for the uh succinct report, and um it's nice to see that view oil's not going to get much of an increase.
Um but uh uh your your page um uh 15 on the reserve continuity um uh certainly looks a little alarming when uh it appears at the end of the day um for 2024, we'd only have 9,000 left.
Um does it is I wonder if that shouldn't be uh marching red as opposed to yellow.
Um is is there a way uh and I guess that's gonna be um hopefully some consideration of the owners and and the board to uh improve the looks of that so we don't have to follow in such a um tenuous situation.
Any comments?
Yeah, uh through the chair.
Uh yeah, definitely.
And that's part of this asset management plan is coming forward with that.
So we've got um our operations crew has a fantastic 25 year capital plan.
Um the missing pieces, which is evident by this by this graph, is the it's not fully funded.
Um, and we do hit a funding shortfall coming up.
Uh, a lot of those big projects, as mentioned with not receiving uh not having up or um a budget increase for a few years is the the way to make budget is capital projects were removed, and so we've got some really heavy years coming up.
That 60,000 a year, as long as we keep growing that um by that amount, if the ownership is is um wanting that, that will lessen this as well.
And we'll make adjustments as we go through to what the projects are.
Right now, this is what is in 2024.
Of course, we won't go negative.
So if we get to that point and there's no change, we will make adjustments to what those projects are and make ensure the board and the ownership is aware of what that could potentially mean as far as wear and tear on the facilities.
But um this is definitely foremost in our um, certainly in my mind, anyways, in uh and the board's mind, um, as needing correction as we move forward.
Thank you.
Just a follow-up question, your worship.
So um, and and maybe your worship you can help me with this.
Um when when and I appreciate and and I'm thankful that um it was the um direction to report another 60,000 on reserves is that per year so well is that now for all those years an additional 60 000 i guess certainly starting this year grant what what exactly that that was the capital asset management plan right that required the 60 000 per year yes yes yeah that's the to make to to be get to get to that funding level we need to grow by that 60 000 every year so we'll continue to add that extra two percent into the or one point i forget the number I should have in running but uh we'll continue to grow that amount each year yes yeah thank you counselor matts and um yes thank you and very good presentation grant appreciated that uh two questions for you um what was the inflation inflation rate that you built used to build in for your you know future projections and uh i gather wage or potential wage increases are coming i'm just wondering if you could if you what what amount you put in for that as as a percentage sure um um through the chair so we have for inflation we had two and a half percent is what we used um for that um the way the way things are going that's possibly a little shy i'm guessing um so we may need to to um to work on that as far as wage increases, we we're actually ahead of the curve of our counterparts.
We um did our negotiation negotiations last year, so we had a there was a one and a half percent increase for this year and a two percent for 2023, and that's that's where our current contract is right now.
Okay, so no future contract to no more negotiations for a few years.
No, not for a few years, yeah.
In here we always build two percent into wages, we tend to use that as an average, uh, but our current contract is a one and a half for 2022 and then it's two percent for 2023.
Okay, thank you.
What's the cutoff date for the assessments that you use just out of curiosity?
I might have to defer to Dawn on that one, but I think it um it's the previous year, so it will be for 2022's budget, it's the 2021 assessment.
So I assume it's the calendar year of 2021.
Right.
Well, that would explain it because we did actually lose assessed value yes last year, which would but this but this year it's gone up, so we're gonna see a correction, obviously.
But um on my left?
Okay, thank you.
Okay, damn any questions?
No.
So staff, should we have a motion to support the budget and to go to council?
Okay, so is anyone prepared to make that?
Okay, so support is moved by councillor rogers, second by councillor Kowalewich.
Okay, all in favor, opposed, that's carried.
Thank you, Grant.
Thanks for coming and walking through that, and thank you for all your work.
And let's hope we get that grant for the skateboard park.
Definitely.
Thank you very much.
Thanks.
So next up we have public participation.
The number to call in is on your screen, 778-402-9227.
And enter conference ID 605-307-000 pound.
Staff, do we have any callers on the line?
Your worship, we have caller last four digits 0569.
Okay, thank you.
Caller with the last four digits zero five six nine.
This is your opportunity to speak to an item on the agenda today, if you would like.
Good afternoon.
Zero five six nine.
Hello.
Hello, are you able to hear me?
We sure can, yeah.
Go ahead.
Okay.
Hi.
Um, thank you, Mayor and Council, for this opportunity to speak.
Jane Devonshire here from two forty two Glenairlie Drive, speaking on behalf of the VRCC.
I'm going to speak to the agenda item six point one point three B, Energy Step Codes.
I'm truly excited to see the community climate action strategy coming close to fruition.
I'm particularly pleased to see that the staff and council are taking a serious look at the energy step codes with an eye to accelerating the timelines.
The provincial government target of twenty thirty-two is far too late, and we will be toast by then.
Right now, the South Island Climate Action Network, SICAN, is working on advocating for the LCES or low carbon energy systems bylaws.
We are advocating for Step Code 5, but permits a Step Code 3 build if no fossil fuels are used in the building.
Step Code 3 is already coming into play this year, so this is easily achievable.
Eight municipalities have enacted have enacted some variation of this LCES bylaw, most prominently North and West Vancouver.
Victoria is currently looking into this as well.
Within SICAN, we have teams starting to approach Esquimol, Callwood Sanity so far, along with the BRCC and V Rural.
I understand that the CRD has a working group looking at the step codes, and I hope that they will see there's a lot of support for this.
I think industry is looking for a regional approach, and the District of North Vancouver has enacted such a bylaw.
If the CRD does not enact a regional bylaw, let us be the little municipality that can and does get it done.
Let us be the catalyst for change on South Island and build back better.
We are in a severe climate emergency, and every gas hookup blocks our building stock into another 20 years of climate destroying GHG emissions.
This methane gas is 86, let me repeat that, 86 times more potent than CO2.
I sincerely hope you consider making the step code change within our community climate action strategy.
Climate change waits for no one.
I also hope that staff will carry our voices to the local government workshop potentially scheduled to meet tomorrow, February 9th.
Thank you so much for your kind attention.
Thank you, Jane.
Thank you, Mayor Screech.
Do we have any other callers on the line, Steph?
Your worship, we're not showing any other callers at this time.
Okay, thank you very much.
So I'm going to close off public participation, and I'm going to hand the chair over to Councillor Lemon for Protective Services.
And um I have no report.
Thank you, Your Worship.
Uh Superintendent Preston, you're up.
Lovely to see you, sir.
Lovely, thank you, Mr.
Mayor.
Council, thanks for having me as always.
I think we have a number of slides here today, but I'll I'll start off just by giving you a quick overview, a quick update of uh some numbers here that uh are relevant for your community.
So in January we went to 238 calls uh for service.
A lot of traffic-related complaints uh this month.
Uh we took three impaired drivers off the road in View Royal uh in January.
We also had 16 reported motor vehicle collisions uh in View Royal as well throughout the month.
As a as a request from the V Royal Elementary School, Constable Brewer was teaching Dare there uh this month, so it was nice to see the members back in the schools again.
Uh, he also took um a whole bunch of the kids from the View Royal and uh Esquimont, Songhese First Nation, and and this area as well to the Grizzlies game.
We partnered up with the Grizzlies.
So they they offer up tickets, and Cole was kind enough to take them on the uh the weekend, and we'll continue to do that.
In fact, we partnered up with the Legion on that one, and they brought the 10-passenger van down.
I think it was um Norm from the Legion that came down and was uh acted as driver and uh chauffeur, and uh we'll continue to do that as well.
Um so just a couple of significant files here that uh shouldn't say just a random sampling of files.
So January 14th, we received the uh report of a stolen vehicle near uh Presley Place.
A few days later, that vehicle was recovered out in Souk.
However, uh the tools inside remain stolen.
We have no suspects at this time.
January 17th, uh we received a report of a theft from vehicle in uh Burnett Road area.
Approximately $2,500 worth of plumbing tools were stolen from an unlocked vehicle.
21st of January.
Um, while a officer was conducting patrols in the 200 block of View Royal, a um our automatic license plate reader, which is on our traffic vehicles, and so it reads you know every plate that's coming by automatically and spits out whether or not somebody's prohibited uh or no insurance uh no insurance.
Uh that one picked off a prohibited driver uh in that area.
That individual was arrested and uh served with an appearance notice for March for court.
On the 21st in West Shore, we received a complaint from a social worker reporting uh sexual interference uh disclosure regarding a um a family, a father, and a child uh scenario.
We uh obviously were actively engaged in that investigation and will continue to do so.
On the 27th of January, uh we received a report of a missing person while hiking in Theatus Lake.
The person uh had recently moved from here from Europe and got uh uh lost.
A good Samaritan assisted in bringing them back to their vehicle.
And on the 31st, uh West Shore responded to a three-car motor vehicle accident in the 1700 block of Island Highway.
One of the vehicles was uh not drivable, and the other two had minor damage uh to their vehicle so lots of lots of uh motor vehicle stuff unfortunately this this month here we were not as uh diligent and uh hero like as the fire department saving a seal um like they were so um there is metals for medals forthcoming for uh no doubt but were we really saving a seal with less staff uh yes yes he does he'll he'd be happy to point that out um we had 14 uh calls up to the hospital.
We had uh 10 mental health related calls, which is actually great uh news in the sense that it was only it was down 52 percent from the year prior.
So uh perhaps maybe some of the release of conditions here, people are not quite as kooked up.
Um, but we did see a 50% decrease in last month.
So hopefully that's a trend that'll continue.
Uh overall, when we look at uh the 28th 2018 uh here we are, uh to 2021 stats, you'll notice a marked increase here.
We got 500 about 550 more calls for service in due royal since 2018.
So just a steady increase there.
Um I don't think that's a a surprise.
Although I do I do believe that it's uh you know the same increase as Langford had um last year.
So it's it's it is significant for a small community.
Um I'm really kind of unable to speak to why it's gone up so much, but uh it has.
I mean, I know all the communities are growing right now.
So the percentage of incidents in uh West Shore last year it was uh 15%.
So 15% of our calls for service were in um View Royal, and um 19% in uh Caulwood, Machosen 3.8, Highlands 1.4, Malahat just under one, the reserves 3.3, and uh Langford was fifty-five percent.
Um just trying to see.
So, yeah, so like from last year, your calls for service increased 15 percent.
Yeah, sorry, go ahead.
Well do you want them to advance to say next year?
Yeah, you can scroll scroll through it, it's fine here.
These are just uh can you excuse me?
Yes, uh question.
You know, there were the three charts that you provided here, and they all looked identical to me.
They are identical, they're just they're just a different way of showing them.
Uh the statistician, that's how uh they wrote them.
Some of them actually have the numbers built in, some of them don't have the numbers built in here.
Okay, good.
I thought it was a test.
So um currently uh you guys are paying uh view Roles paying for 12.35 percent of the the resource.
Um it'll be 13 if uh you know we did ask for one body from View Royal, which would put you at uh 13.35%.
And every year you guys are in that 13 to 15 percent range, so it's a couple percent lower, but it's still within the range of um uh I think relevancy in terms of the other communities for um you know you're in a partnership obviously with Calwood and Langford, and we won't talk about the province.
Uh obviously tomorrow the numbers do come out for um stat scan, so we'll see if a chosen goes over, and we'll be having a conversation with uh the province here uh soon.
But in terms of your shared resources and what you guys pay for you know uh I'd venture to say that it's it's you know if you can increase the the body this year you'll be um certainly in the in the range with everybody else I think Langford might be a little overcontributing a little bit but some years they undercontribute a little bit and I think that's the nice thing about the partnership it'll never be an exact number um so being off a couple percent it's just not allowing the you know one community to fall way behind in terms of uh their participation and relevant to the um calls for service any any questions on these uh initial slides here?
So I don't know that this is accurate, but um you can you can keep scrolling through there.
Um I'm not sure if this is one of the slides on here, but it talks about uh cost per it has your population at 11,829 and uh cost per capita at 125 dollars per per person, comparatively speaking, 207 for Callwood, 267 for Langford.
And when you get into the the high-end boutique police forces like Saanich, uh you're you're into 286 and in Victoria at 530 uh dollars per per capita.
Yeah, there it is, that number there.
No, I do um that would be a little skewed in the sense that I believe it's uh the the 7030 split and the others are 90 10.
I think that would account for a little bit of that uh that number.
Right.
And you'll enjoy that uh that discount until you hit 15,000.
Unless you can miraculously do what chosen is has done over the years and keep it under that number for somehow.
And the next slide there.
So as you can see, the um the rural caseload per officer is is a little higher um than the other municipalities.
And I just noticed that in in the last, like I said, in the last few years, uh that your numbers have definitely increased.
You know, probably not the same as the other municipalities.
I'm not sure what that rationale is.
Is that a hospital?
No, I think that's been fairly consistent.
I'm not, um, I mean, I guess I I'm not completely sure of some of the housing um, you know, the types of housing that you've you've added into the area.
I'm not sure if that has anything to do with it, or you know, the fact that um we know that Victoria's had some significant issues uh downtown, and perhaps you're the first stop uh on the way into the west.
I really can't explain.
We have a ton more of the petty crime than we used to, right?
Yeah.
Household.
I agree.
Um bikes being stolen and hoses being vandalized and propane tanks being stolen.
I know.
I mean, that used to be a rarity, and now it almost seems quite common.
Yeah.
And you and you, you know, we we're starting to see more um street people, um, homeless people in in the area here that are obviously looking for for resources and housing and and what have you.
And um so I I don't, yeah, I can't explain the the calls for service, the increase uh, you know, in particular why yours has gone up more than than everybody else's percentage wise, other than speculating.
Yeah, um, you know, with the statistics that you you you get, you know, I'm just wondering if you can, uh someone there can run a program and take out hospital, take out highways, uh, you know, to try and level the playing field and and get a sense of what um absolutely.
Yeah.
Um, you know what, you'll in the annual report, you'll actually you'll get that and it'll give a more thorough breakdown of of what the calls for service were, kind of a more blend.
Yeah.
And that should be out in the next two weeks here.
We should be able to have that to you.
Um that it was that one.
Yeah, I think that's it for slides.
So as I've mentioned before, um, and I've come to you, oh, and actually I wanted to mention one point to the the caller uh in public participation, should be happy to know that um that the Tesla that I've talked to you guys about are electric vehicles.
Uh the uh the pilot for the country is here, and I think I've mentioned that to you a number of times.
It is it's arrived in Ottawa, so it's currently being fitted up with one other vehicle that'll be in Ottawa, and then we'll have the other vehicle here on the West Coast.
Um, and we also have two more electric vehicles, uh, a Ford uh Lightning on order and a Ford Mach E.
So West Shore will be, like I said, the test site for the country with electric vehicles, uh trying to greening green our fleet and um being a little environmentally conscious, as well as uh looking at efficiencies.
Um we spent a lot of money, and gas prices don't seem to be going down, so uh this should certainly benefit the communities.
Did you say Tesla?
Yes.
So we're the so the detachment is getting a Tesla plus two other We're getting a yeah, we're gonna be piloting a Tesla, uh Ford Mustang Machie, and a Ford Lightning uh pickup truck.
So I'm currently in the process of putting electric uh charging stations in.
Um took about two years because you're dealing with federal government.
But after two years, uh it seems the police departments down in the states that have done it, they start realizing savings because it costs about $20,000 more for the vehicles and the fit-ups.
But we save that in gas each year um and maintenance because they require less paid.
And so after two years, I should be able to come back to you and say, now I'm saving you ten thousand dollars a year um for the next five years or 10 years of the vehicle's life.
Terrific.
Yeah.
Good, good.
Good.
Sorry that was getting a little off track there.
So um the the ask um this year was for for one extra RCMP officer from View Royal.
There's one from Callwood and three from Langford.
Langford's confirmed there three Callwood is confirmed in principle and I'm hoping and optimistic that uh View View Royal will be able to contribute.
The positions will be utilized for um the View Royal position would be for a sex assault a special victims unit which is going to be uh focusing on domestic violence as well as um sexual assault investigations.
I think we're we're becoming the size of that attachment, and those investigations are just they're too sensitive.
And if it was your son or daughter that had been sexually assaulted, I think you'd want somebody that has adequate training, that niche, and be able to properly investigate that.
And so that is the two bodies that we're trying to put towards that, one police dog and two more bodies to field uh back on the watch to feel the increase in call volume.
Um Todd, I I noted that the sexual assault clinic is losing or going to be stopping its counseling services.
Will would any kind of counseling service be incorporated within that?
I don't know.
Um, I would I would think that would be uh an absolute priority that we'd be able to partner with somebody for that.
Um we don't want to leave somebody that's gone through that type of trauma without that that level of service.
So um absolutely that would be uh something.
So just to put it in perspective, last year we had uh 10 um sorry, 13 sex assault investigations in V Royal alone, and 75 domestic violence files.
So this type of unit would oversee, they wouldn't be doing all of the domestic violence, but they'd be overseeing the domestic violence to make sure that proper investigations and proper uh victim management is uh being completed.
But they would be looking after the uh the sex assault investigations.
And we've seen in other communities where those files haven't got the attention that they need, and the victims, unfortunately, have been the ones that have been re-victimized by the by the lack of attention.
Um questions on that.
So uh so I I'm happy to make the motion that we support a new officer for the West Shore detachment starting November 1st of this year.
Okay.
Second or second.
I really uh I really appreciate uh your support.
It doesn't go unnoticed.
Thank you.
Good.
Do you want to speak to it?
I I don't honestly, I feel like I need to speak to it.
I'll wait and see if my colleagues have to say, but I yeah.
I'll reserve my yeah, I it it's uh I think the uh the numbers justify you know the information that you provide us.
Um I I think it's um I'm pleased to hear that uh you know you've already been doing the planning on on where these officers, um, these FTs, if you like, will will be going into.
And I'm really pleased that we're putting an extra resource, that expertise into uh the sexual assault uh aspects.
So um I realize it's necessary.
We should do it.
Thank you, Council.
Uh Counselor, did you want to speak to it?
I know uh that the cost of policing continues to rise.
The sophistication and disclosure requirements of uh major cases uh are in high demand by by Crown Council and by our criminal justice system, and it's becoming uh more challenging to prosecute than ever before.
So uh to me, this is a no-brainer to support this, in particular uh those survivors that you're speaking to.
Appreciate that.
Thank you very much, Council.
Councilor Matson, did you want to speak to it?
Um yes, thank you.
Uh I too will be interested in seeing the numbers if we can extract uh the hospital and and uh trans Canada to just to see what the impact's been.
But I thought we'd already voted on this um a week or so ago.
No, no, we no we discussed it at uh at a CAO meeting.
Uh it hasn't it needs to be in the public realm.
Okay, no, I I thought we'd already done this, but all right.
Okay, well, personally, uh I'm proud of my counsel if we if we uh uh just let this another question after we pass the motion.
Okay, all right.
All those in favor.
Opposed motion passed.
This is another follow-up question.
So uh if I hear you you're um still working on the province to uh come to the table and negotiate their fair share.
Yeah, I think uh obviously there's conversations to be had surrounding um a new building, and with Machosen going over, I think that will be the kind of the crux of or the uh the start of negotiations with the province uh and machosen as to what your relationship's going to be, and that's really between the municipalities and the province.
Uh and and you know, together.
I mean, uh from my perspective, I see quite a harmonious uh relationship.
One that's I think I've told you before, one of probably the best in the province that I've seen and heard of.
And I'm pretty well connected throughout the province within the RCFP in terms of the three major municipalities here sharing resources.
You know, you look at other municipalities uh to have 24 hour policing, you'd need around 20 officers.
I just heard that today from our strategy branch.
You know, so you wouldn't be able to have 24 hour policing here, we'd have an on-call.
Um, but on the flip side, the other municipalities wouldn't be able to have some of these specialty units um that they enjoy.
You'd all pretty much just have frontline policing.
And so as a result, if you guys working together harmoniously, you can stand up sex assault units, drug sections, property crime, um, GIS, community policing, traffic, and you can have all those units because you guys can work together.
And you see so many of these other municipalities uh and those relationships fracture and they can't get along, and you know, it's unfortunate it's constituents that lose.
Um, they don't they don't enjoy those those specialty units.
I I don't know any other community um and detachment in the province.
You're a very unique detachment here, and and they always use this one as a case study and uh and for how hard it is, but you've actually um you made it fairly easy for me.
Um just because the three of you guys get along so well.
Uh maybe not on everything, but uh certainly in the policing world.
So I appreciate that as well.
Three of which guys I'm sorry.
The three municipalities if I didn't include obviously the First Nations as well.
Yeah there's it's just more the the province, uh the provincial areas and um yeah.
I guess uh just a comment, you know I I agree it it it's really good that we're able to do that, but I also don't want the province to step away and say okay okay you guys are taking care of it.
Um you don't need us.
I think um I think things will come to a head sooner than later here.
Uh I think keep us posted.
Yes.
Thank you.
Okay.
I'll move receipt of Todd's report.
Terrific.
Thank you very much.
Again, thank you for your support.
Thanks, Todd.
Appreciate it.
Second.
Motion passed.
Report received.
Marathon man.
You're up, Chief.
I have no report.
You will you do?
Are you are you are you not going to speak to the building?
Yeah.
Hey.
Or do you want to talk about the seal instead?
Oh.
Director Chase.
Ah.
Oh, okay.
Okay.
So you're that's wrapped.
So it shouldn't really be under my jurisdiction anymore, should it?
That's fine.
Okay.
All right, good.
Thank you.
Welcome.
Thank you, Counselor Lemon.
Uh I'm Lindsay Chase, Director of Development Services, and with me today is A.V.
Wu, our auxiliary building official, who will be presenting the report on step code.
Oh, well, welcome, Ms.
Wu.
Thank you.
Uh may I have some assistance with the slides, please?
Is that happening?
They should be up in just a moment.
Yeah, I forgot.
Producer, do you have the slides, Andy?
Things always go wrong first time.
It does seem to happen that way, yes.
All right.
Good afternoon.
Uh I'm AB Wu.
I'm here to present counsel with the report of the NG Step Code.
The following slides outline the highlights of the report that was in front of you.
I will be presenting information regarding some general update on the SEP code in its current uh state.
In addition, I will highlight what some of our regional local governments are referencing in the SEP code and greenhouse gas reduction efforts.
There is currently a working group with staff in the regional local government, and I'll be providing information on what they're up to and where V Royal staff is participating in that effort.
Lastly, I will present some next steps for council's information.
Next slide, please.
This slide is a reminder to council about a report that was presented in April 2020 and the direction that council provided staff regarding the step code, which is to meet step two for part three buildings and step three for part nine buildings by 2022, which is where we're at now.
Next slide, please.
Council has probably seen this graphics before as one of the is one of the ones that the province is using to explain what are the steps in the step code and the expected energy performance that should go up in steps.
The province introduced the energy step code in 2017, and it's anticipated we will reach step five or net zero by 2032 with incremental steps in 2022 and 2027.
So currently in the BC Building Code, we're in step one.
It's anticipated the province will introduce step three by the end of 2022 for part nine buildings, and step two part three buildings coming up.
Local governments are doing.
So Victoria, Sanish, and Callwood are all quite similar in what they're asking for, which is step three for part nine.
And Oak Bay is slightly different in what they call large multifamily, which is step two.
Otherwise, pretty much people who are part uh local governments who are participating are looking at step three right now.
Next slide, please.
It is timely when I started gathering information about the step code with the contacts that I have with the local government staff.
There is a working group with local government staff that was just launching an initiative to look at a more coordinated municipal response in adopting the STEP code.
In preliminary discussions with industry stakeholders, such as the builders and designers, they are wanting to have a somewhat uniform approach in what steps apply to what buildings and the timeline for adoption.
This is the reason why the working group started.
So far, there are three events planned, which is outlined on this slide.
The first event is a local government staff workshop planned for tomorrow, and then the two separate workshops with industry, which is planned for the last week in February.
Next slide, please.
This diagram is on page five of the report.
This diagram is provided by the working group on a suggested engagement process.
The industry workshops are part of the education sessions in this diagram, and a survey is under development, which may go out in parallel with or after the workshops.
The solution labs in this diagram is another workshop where they will be reviewing the findings with the stakeholder and then maybe a broader engagement session after, depending on the timing of everything.
If council wishes, we can bring back a report in March after the workshops with some options for council to consider on adopting the higher steps than what the provincial building code is requiring.
Next slide, please.
So to summarize, staff can bring back a report in March after the industry workshops to report on the feedback with the development community and will provide options to council to consider if View Royal wants to engage in the discussion on higher energy steps and greenhouse gas reductions.
Should council want staff to look into the higher steps after this report, then staff can bring back another report in June on how to adopt the higher steps into bylaw and policies.
We will need to bring in a delayed adoption date to accommodate files that are already in stream.
With this effort, staff will be needing to update our forms, web page information, and any documentation, and uh and we'll communicate these out to our stakeholders.
Next slide.
So that concludes my presentation and that uh that counts that the committee of a whole receive this report for information.
Okay, thank you very much.
Uh questions.
Counselor Rogers.
Thank you for the report.
Um thank you for also listening.
The uh you gave a few examples of the other municipalities.
Um I think you listed um uh what four.
Um, but I'd I'd be curious to know what um squimal and soup and sensible sandwich um uh as other examples.
And I'd like to, you know, I'm sure you guys, when you come go to have your meeting tomorrow, I'm hoping those all the representatives from all 13 municipalities will be there.
And um, you know, that's that's uh you know just looking at the at the four, it it would give me better context.
Um I think the other thing too is that when we um you know making the motion back in and 20 April 2020 um uh to meet STEPCO two, you know, I think uh things have uh dramatically differ uh become different, uh more critical uh since that time in two years.
Um I want to be able to um see that we accelerate uh the step code in in uh in view oil.
Um I know we've we've heard from Jane about uh going to step code five.
Um you know I'm not so sure about going to five, but I certainly would be interested in going to four.
Um and uh it all was part of our direction for GHD reductions uh that we councils uh recently made the very ambitious, very um uh important step.
And I don't think we're going to be able to achieve that uh if we don't uh start moving on our step codes.
Uh I also note that in the climate action strategic uh draft plan uh there's um that discussion as well um and I I note that going to step codes doesn't um really address the uh GHD issue um as much certainly if homes are a lot more efficient they have a lot less heating use and and so forth but um I would be interested, because again, we've heard examples where um municipalities will uh give the carrot in the stick approach.
Uh if you just want to do step code, we say five.
If you want to do um uh put in heat pumps, then we'll consider a lesser step code.
So I would um hope that when staff go to this uh local government workshop um we work out the details of that uh so that we can regionally uh have an approach with our uh building community um to get all of them behind a standard approach so that we are indeed all working towards reducing uh the GHCs in an accelerated rate.
So I'll leave it at that for now.
Counselor Colwich.
Thanks.
And uh Council Rogers, excellent, uh, excellent point you're bringing up.
Is uh and this can be more of a question, I guess, to Director Chase.
That's something that I was gonna mention as well.
I think I I know what our guest wants out of this.
Uh certainly you're here to, and great presentation.
You're here to give us best uh a best uh practice for the best possible um building uh step codes that are that are ever achievable.
Um I guess what I'm wondering is is how how would that affect uh potential developers who come into View Royal and say, uh, you know, next door I can I can build XYZ and over here I can't.
Uh trying to, I'm trying to just get this kind of break it down to your your your average development application and how that would look to us and to you.
Thank thank you very much, Counselor Kowalowich.
Yeah.
Okay.
I think that there's a few a few components to this.
First and foremost, we are attempting to work regionally so that we understand what the implications would be if the town chooses to not be in step with other municipalities.
The good news is that the regional working group is actually bigger than just Victoria, Saanich, um, and Oak Bay.
There are a few other municipalities that are participating and are and and they are all looking at at the same thing, uh, which is what happens uh or actually I think it's really the question of is it actually a disincentive if one municipality has a higher step code requirement or offers alternatives to a higher step code where you have GHGI how or low carbon low carbon housing being offered or so is it is it a disincentive or not?
And I think that there's probably two different pieces to that.
One is that the higher a step code um number uh or or step that we are at, the more energy efficient housing is.
It may cost a little bit more to produce, but the flip side of that is is that the operational cost of it is quite a bit lower.
So you know those are and those are I think selling features these days for the vast majority of potential potential future residents.
So I'm not sure that the argument that it is in fact a disincentive is really that substantial.
If we are going to be applying step code to in-stream applications, that requires substantial redesign.
That is very costly for developers, and that may be something that pushes them away.
But if we have a long leadout for them, there is definitely an opportunity for them to be able to respond and just kind of build build that in.
Um very upset with us at that point.
So at this point, we're in a fact-finding fact-finding mode.
We're going to do our best to figure out what the options are for View Royal, get the landscape of what's happening around us, and then we'll bring back information and council will be able to hopefully make informed choices at that point.
Does that answer your question?
Thank you.
I am looking forward to some of the results from the upcoming uh workshops and uh making a decision to best uh balance the future needs of View Royal and making development appealing here and welcoming uh while also being mindful of the environment.
It's not going to be easy, but uh we'll we'll take it one step at a time, no pun intended.
Okay.
Um, Councillor Masson, any comments?
Yes, thank you.
Um so Ms.
Wu, thank you very much for your presentation.
Appreciated that, and congratulations for your first first time in front of council.
I think that back in 2020, when we we passed that motion, and I don't think it was very ambitious when you sort of look back to what we're we're projecting in in terms of uh carbon emissions and and what's happening in some of the other municipalities.
So I I share uh councillor Rogers' concerns that we aren't moving quickly enough, and I have a concern that you know spending another seven or eight months before we get all our ducks in a row, uh is just too long for the number of sort of buildings that are planning to come on stream in the next little while.
The other question I had was again talking about buildings in stream.
So I I gather from what uh Director Chase had said that as long as the development permit hasn't been approved, we could impose uh a higher step code.
Okay, so Councillor Chase, if you could just sort of correct me on that one.
And I understand the the concerns about the uh you know if somebody who's already sort of designed the building and then you change the step code, then there's some inconvenience and and cost for them.
But I just wanted clarification in terms of what we could do legally, even if we decided not to do it.
I I don't think I'm in a position to be able to provide a legal opinion on the on that exact issue.
Like if we changed changed rules, I think that um we can certainly bring back information that directly answers that question.
Um and I'm I'm yeah, I don't know the answer, so I'm I'm not I'm not comfortable speculating on on what the the legalities of it would be.
I think though that from the the potential of pushing away development applications or having development applications languish, um establishing a date that um things are coming into effect and establishing what an in-stream application is is one of those important things that council will need to need to turn their attention to as we as we move forward in particular if you're wishing to advance uh implementation of step code and low carbon building so step code though isn't a zoning issue it's a development permit issue um step code can be yes step step code is a building code issue yes however it can have zoning implications because of different requirements for overhangs different requirements for the thickness of walls can impact setbacks, those types of things.
So that's that's where where when we when I'm talking about necessitating building redesign, meeting the step code requires different building techniques to be used.
So it may then also impact form and character of buildings.
So I'm also hearing you say that we could put them in place next week, but do we have to change the the building code because we require a different different building than they could currently build now, plus uh other issues.
If council wishes to advance step code, that actually needs to be done by bylaw.
So so it is it is possible to do.
However, I would I would urge uh council to consider all of the implications associated with that.
And and we'll we'll we will bring back future reports that explore what those implications are uh just again for my colleague just for preference i'd probably prefer to get some of those implications you know sooner rather than than later because i i feel there's an urgency to this but i i certainly don't want to put people in a horrible position in terms of people are developing in our community prefer to report back in march we we need to request a report back in march if we're if if if we would like a report back from um the working groups.
Yeah.
That would be march.
But I think it's happening from the presentation, is is what i understood the if we can confirm that i my my impression is that she said if we would like.
So I think we need to receive the report and then request report back to the end of the day.
Director Chase, can you just clarify that for us?
I I had the impression that we'd be getting reports back in March and then a further one in June.
We we we we have we have uh already put it onto our schedule to bring reports back in in March and June.
And it is possible that we can advance those um uh understanding.
I I've noted council uh council's concerns about the urgency of this matter.
So we'll we'll do our we'll do our best to bring it bring it quickly.
Thank you, Director Chase.
Do we have a second or yeah, second with just a couple more comments?
All right, and okay, do you want to speak to it?
No, I'm I'm good.
Thank you.
Okay.
Um just one second.
Director Chase, just going back to that thread regarding when projects are in-stream.
And I and perhaps you, you know, perhaps this is putting too fine a point on it because you've made your point that you probably can't answer.
But I'm wondering if in-stream refers to before DP or before rezoning.
I can take a stab at that.
So at rezoning, we require um what we're really addressing is land use and density.
And council has been very fortunate in that our development community likes to give you all of the a fair amount of detail.
Moving from rezoning to development permit from the applicant's perspective necessitates a much higher level of detail and much more thinking about what the project is actually going to look like, feel like, and be built like.
So this is an application for DP, you kind of have your form uh set at that point in time, in particular, setbacks, building height, those types of things.
And then it's the movement from development permit to building permit.
Um, and at building permit they need construction quality drawings, um, which really uh really puts the the the point uh the point to how the building is actually going to be constructed.
So it it is uh to my mind it it's not the rezoning applications.
Although, interestingly, the legislation does allow us to consider as part of a rezoning whether or not council wishes to apply a higher step code to that particular project.
Um, and that that can be that can be done at time of rezoning, even if the rest of the municipality isn't at that particular level of step code yet.
Okay, that's great there's like like there's like there's some really interesting nuances here and some tools that I we we're we're really looking forward to bringing bringing all of that information back to council for discussion terrific okay thank you and uh we look forward to that report and just said one last comment uh staff I'm I'm I'm really encouraged thank you very much for um uh you know all of you coming together uh on the workshop and and recognize the importance of this and um and I look also forward to uh the further workshops on on uh part nine part three uh just clarify for me um schools hospitals municipal buildings CRD buildings what groups do those fall into i can answer that answer the mayor um the schools and other buildings are they are part three buildings however the energy step code um if they're really aimed for residential buildings uh in the steps and and and the measurements that they do take they are energy standards that non residential buildings can um build to under Ashray and whatnot, and I won't bore you with the technical details um so there's somewhat parallel uh efforts to make all types of buildings energy efficient.
Um but the provincial step energy step code uh program, if you want to call it that, they are it is aimed at uh residential buildings, including apartment buildings and condoms.
Yeah.
So um again, you know, just asking that when you have that discussion, uh let's let's think about uh the CRD, new CRD buildings that are going to be built or new municipal halls, fire halls, and um and schools and hospitals.
And I I think we need to have that discussion on those areas that have you know used.
They're large and they consume a lot of energy, and they also have a responsibility beyond just developers and building townhouses.
So I I hope that um you look at that.
The other thing I'm harking back on in uh is the old good old days when we had leads, leads platinum and I'd um or gold, and I'd be very curious to know what um what step code would be a Leeds platinum.
Um I I have a little bit of background to that through the mayor.
Um it is a separate program.
Leeds was designed to give the rating that they do the the silver, gold, platinum based on a set of measurements um that that is very different than what the step code measured.
The step code basically measured only energy use as a functioning building or what would be perceived to be a functioning building.
So it's comparing apples and oranges in some way.
Certainly a platinum um lead building would be very energy efficient.
There'll be at least a step three and above, but they don't really compare because they don't line up in the same way.
Okay, thank you.
My last comment.
Listening to Richmond and observing their um uh great initiatives on on the whole step code thing, um I get the impression that uh the province is now the one that's dragging us down, and I think the weakest link is the building code.
So I hope that uh from uh coming out of your uh meetings that we can also start putting some movement in particular on province to step up on the step codes.
Thank you.
All those in favor of receiving the report, opposed motion passed.
Thank you very much for your report, Ms.
Wu and uh to staff will look forward to the next report and perhaps the one after that.
Appreciate it.
Over to you.
No, you've got the building department report, which our chief has been anxiously waiting for.
There he is, or maybe he's not.
No, he's not, it doesn't look like he is okay.
Okay, I'll I'll move receipt of the building department report.
I it's the directory's head.
Yeah.
Oh, of course, yeah.
Right.
We forget.
Right.
Director Chase, I'm not handing over the chair.
Um I just move receipt of the report.
Hello.
You want to speak to it, or you you know you just want to say that there were there was not much to report in the month of January, and I'm I'm hoping that future months will have uh better numbers associated with them.
It clearly wasn't a booming month.
Um all right.
Only for plumbers.
There you go.
Uh do we have a motion to receive?
Yeah, second right.
All those in favor.
All right, thank you very much.
Thank you.
Okay.
So now we're into finance and admin.
And um, the first thing up, Councillor Lemon, I think you wanted to give a brief update on the.
No, I did.
Um, excuse me, I've just got a little bit of a G VPO reserves.
I do.
And do is is um Director Christensen around?
Is she on the line?
So we'll here she is.
Hooray.
Hello.
So at a at a um committee of the whole meeting, I believe it was last month, there was a uh report from the uh GVPL and um well it's the budget.
And there were questions raised about the reserves, which which I I I admittedly were um confusing from my point of view and clearly to the rest of councils.
So I contacted um Paul McKinnon, and rest assured the reserves are in fine shape.
Um they just weren't reflected in that report that we had.
Um so according to Paul McKinnon, the direct director of finance for the library, um in 2018 the reserves were at 11.9 million, and now for the library in 2021, they're at 17 million.
So there's been considerable increase since 2018.
Um there's a decision made by the board in May of 2020 to allocate allocate 1.3 million to contingency to be used to offset municipal contributions over the course of five years from 2020 to 2020 um due to the uncertainty of the pandemic.
But so reserves were drawn down but all is well with the reserve situation um compared to what and you know what I would go back to that particular budget submission from the library except my iPad has been out of um commission until five minutes before this meeting started.
So sorry I can't go back and identify exactly what the confusion was, but perhaps our director of finance can um not to not to put words in, thank you through the chair.
Um not to put words in your mouth, Councilor Lemon, but my understanding was that there was a concern about drawing down the reserves and and perhaps the future sustainability of that practice because I think council is well aware that there is a an appropriate level of caution around drawing down reserves.
I appreciate that.
And uh but certainly uh I think in the the case of the library, um they do not have um significant assets as in large buildings to support.
And I think that kind of plays into this decision as well.
So I I just uh agree with uh Councillor Lemon that um I I think uh watchfulness is a good approach as uh we we do trust that the library board is is doing the right thing.
Thank you.
It is it is kind of interesting though that the library board would decide to draw down on reserves to and use reserves to offset operating without wanting to get into a big conversation about that.
I may but I may just do some investig- I'm I'm curious about that.
It it seems an interesting philosophy.
Yeah.
If if I may, I it it was uh and perhaps I mentioned this, um a a safety margin in the event of the pandemic pandemic affecting municipalities so gravely that we were unable to hold our own.
I go ahead I but I I mean obviously it's not our place to no but it's you know I I guess you know we just wanted to speak up express concerns you know for the long term that the the library will continue to be viable and and and ensure that it's going to have the reserves because those reserves you know do so much um uh in terms of building maintenance uh particularly if um when they they own the building and and have to that responsibility of maintenance when things go sideways you know like a hurt uh hurt fee heating system um i i also was uh interested uh and thinking about it we were very lucky that west shore was was eligible for the bc provincial restart during the covet times and yet the library Greater Victoria Library wasn't well I mean they were they not West Shore got it because we as councils agreed right all five West Shore councils agreed to provide a portion of yeah of our so the library could have actually asked us and we would have considered that, I think.
Right.
Okay.
Yeah.
But they chose to do a different tax.
Okay.
Yeah.
Fair enough.
Interesting thing.
Thank you.
So was that helpful that yeah.
No, she's got confidence there's money in the bank.
Yeah yeah.
Yeah.
Good luck.
Oh, that's good.
Thank you.
Thank you, Don.
So we're going to move on to 6.23A, the budget variants and projects update to January the 31st.
Was there anything in this that you wanted to bring to our attention, Don?
Or this being the first uh report uh of 2022, uh your worship, there's not that much to report.
Um, but we did want to keep uh council informed.
Okay, thank you.
Any questions?
No, I'm happy I got the package, so I'll go from there.
Okay, so just a motion to receive.
Similar.
Second.
All in favor, opposed, that's carried.
And we have the financial plan insights dashboard.
Oh, we're gonna get a display of this.
Thank you, your worship, and uh the rest of council.
Um, council already this afternoon has had quite a quite an um lot to think about, and I'm I'm hoping that this is a little bit of a a lighter presentation.
You can kind of sit back and just relax, and I and I'll try to keep it as brief as possible because I know there's a long way yet to go this afternoon.
Council will have received, if I can look in front of you, a bit of a gift today when you arrived in council chambers sitting at your desk.
I think there's a bit of a 200 plus document in front of you that I know you will be very interested in spending a lot of time with over the next week in advance of our budget deliberation sessions next week.
What I have pro what I have in front of you right now is a little bit of a tool that we have built internally initially for staff, just because if if council sometimes perhaps might seem overwhelmed with the amount of the volume of information in in a budget document and in the budget process itself, staff too sometimes struggle with the sheer volume of information and things that we need to think about when we're preparing the budget.
So I prepared this little bit of a budget tool, primarily in initially just for staff, but I thought that council may be interested in playing with it as well.
And in addition, I always want to think about that I want to do our part in my dream towards perhaps not a paperless society, but perhaps a less paper workload.
The more that we can do online, the less perhaps that in the future we can get used to and maybe not print quite so much.
So what you're seeing is just a budget tool.
This is very similar to the budget variance dashboard that we rolled out last year.
It uses the same technology and it kind of looks and feels, I think, a little bit similar.
How do you get to it?
You get to it through a website link.
And we're gonna provide that to council by email for now.
It can be published on our website if council wishes, but only after my proposal is that we would only think about doing that after council has gone through the budget and made the changes that it wants to, you know, that it makes on the on the budget through the budget workshops.
You'll notice at the top left corner there it does say it is the proposed financial plan.
So it does match the booklet in front of you um in in terms of content.
For now, we ask that uh we will share the link with you, but we ask for you not to share the link to others just because the budget is fluid.
I do note that I think this budget document is already out of date because I believe I heard council make a a decision earlier today that will affect the numbers in this budget.
So as you can tell the budget is a very fluid thing and and this um this the document in front of you as well as this tool reflects the numbers as they were when it was built.
So we do ask you not to share the link until after the budget is finalized and we certainly could if council wishes provide access to this tool for a short term perhaps during the term of uh engagement with the public after the budget workshops when we when we uh go to the public with the citizen budget engagement tool we could link this this tool as well um to sort of engage the public a little bit more and get them interested in in um you know kind of what uh the budget contains in a more detailed fashion than the citizen budget would so what is it i'll just go through it quite briefly briefly it it is organized similarly to the booklet that you have in front of you it provides the same information but in an interactive way that allows you to kind of narrow down what you're looking at and allow you to focus on one aspect at a time.
And I do apologize the the tool itself is not meant to be displayed in a large room like council chambers.
I bet uh councillor Mattson may be having a bit of an easier view of it than perhaps you are, as far as you are away from the screen.
But when you're sitting at your computer at home and it does work on the iPad as well, you will see that you know the font size and everything is quite easily readable.
It has really just three sections, and two of them are so similar that we're going to spend most time, most of the time what I'm going to say about one will apply to the other.
So first, when I look at the top here, we are on the non core and capital.
NC represents non core and capital.
So we're looking at non core and capital projects.
This corresponds in your booklet to tab two and three.
Tab two being for non core, tab three being for capital.
In those tabs, there's also the funding.
So there the second page of this report is projects funding.
So together, these two pages in the tool represent the content in tab two and tab three.
The difference is that you can filter down this tool so that you can only see the area that you are specifically interested in.
For example, if I just wanted to see parks, I'm going to click on this yellow box, which represents the park services, and the list is going to immediately filter down to just those those projects that pertain to parks.
If I then go to the top and click on perhaps just the capital filter up here, you're going to then filter down this list even further to say here are this just the capital projects in parks.
You can further filter by the drop down box on the right by a specific project.
So I could type in a search word here and I won't do that right now, but you can certainly, if you're looking for a specific project, you can filter by that as well.
Additionally, you can see the so you see the project priority, you see the project description, you can see the project reference number, and all of those project summaries are in your tab 5 of your booklet, but you don't even need to look at your booklet because you can actually click on the little link right here, and what's going to happen is that project summary is going to open for you just right in that tool itself.
And then to go back, you're just going to close that tab in your browser and it'll be right back to the tool again.
So what this means is that really not only do you have the listing of capital and non-core projects, you actually have a direct link to all of the project summaries that are in your tab 5 in your in your booklet.
The um if you if you are clicking in here, just a little hint.
Um right now I'm filtering by capital.
If you get confused about, well, you know, I didn't mean to put that filter on, I clicked somewhere where I shouldn't have.
There is a little reset button on the top right that'll return all of the filters back to the default setting.
The thing that's different about this page is that when you hover over a number on any of the projects, it's gonna pop up with a little pie chart that shows you where the funding is coming from.
So this particular project is funded.
Uh, the dark blue is casino revenue, and the the light blue is grants and contributions.
So you can go through each and say, Oh, I wonder how that's funded.
Oh, here is here is what that how that is particularly funded.
So it gives you kind of a combined view of that, a holistic view of that project in its entirety.
If I go to the second page, which is the projects funding, again it looks very, very similar.
It has the list of the projects, it has the project summaries that pertain to those projects.
You can again link to that same project summary by clicking on the on the link.
The difference here though is that the filter is by funding source.
So I'm interested in looking at all of the projects that are funded by gas tax.
I just click on the little pink blocks and I'm going to see all of those projects that are funded by gas tax.
Similarly, for reserves, perhaps for casino revenue.
So all of those funding sources are there, and it gives you a list of all of the projects that are funded in that way.
Additionally, at the bottom, there is this link called Appendix 6 Projected Reserve Balances, which gives you the contents of tab six in your booklet.
So that document is just linked here as well.
Any questions so far?
I suspect a whole lot.
Well, give me enough time, and perhaps it would.
I can hardly wait to try it.
And I suppose that as we're going through the process and we're making decisions on uh the amounts allocated and uh up or down or reallocating in different years, and and we've made those decisions on um I don't know, February the 15th.
Um perhaps sometime in the future, maybe even the next meeting, we'd be able to come back to this and see the changes that we'd made uh or suggested previously.
That is a dream for sure.
I'm not quite sure we're there yet, um, just because uh after one meeting I'm almost preparing for the next, but that's certainly something I would I would love to see.
That whether or not it's achievable this time around, I'm not sure.
Yeah.
Well, it's certainly a you know, one of the important things when we were are doing this, um, you know, there's that adjustments on the fly and you know, telling us where we're at and how it's affecting the bottom line.
So uh that would be nice.
Yeah.
Uh I'm also wondering, a beautiful presentation.
Um it's like Christmas.
I look forward to trying it.
Uh the um how would would this also be available on the grants and aid?
Oh, I hadn't thought about that yet.
So no, the answer is no, not yet.
Um I'd I'd be interested in in uh thinking about that a little more.
Okay, thank you very much.
Lovely, lovely to see.
I will show you one more page if if there are no other questions on the projects pages.
Yep, go ahead.
All right.
So this next one is really not going to display well in council chambers.
It displays much better on your computer at home or or perhaps on your iPad.
What you're looking at is really uh the contents of what's in your tab four, which is the the guts, the details, the the number heavy section of your document.
And this was actually the one that I thought, man, nobody's looking at that section because it's hard to look at.
There's a lot of stuff there.
But by putting it in a tool like this, I'm uh we're going to be able to chunk it down again a little bit for you so that you can um you know kind of focus on the areas of specific uh specific to your area of interest.
So, what you can do here, it works similarly to the other pages, but this time instead of collect uh selecting capital or non-core, you're gonna select either revenue or expense.
So let's say you're interested in, I just want to look at expenses.
That's that's really where I want to focus.
And perhaps what I want to do, I'm going to filter by function, I'm going to deselect the select all, and then perhaps I'm going to focus on protective services, right?
So now it's it's narrowed it down, it's a lot less numbers to look at already.
What you I'm what I'm looking at is really only two years, 2022, in which we can see the actual, which is not terribly relevant so far in 2022.
We can see the core, and we're going to talk more about what that is when we get to next week.
We can see the core year over year, the listing of non core, operational cost of capital, which again we're going to talk about more next week, the total budget, the budget year over year dollars and percent.
And then we have the 2021 year for comparison.
When you want to look at other years, you can flip the select year drop down to 2023, and it's going to update automatically.
The difference, of course, in the future years is that the actual columns are blank.
You can, for interest's sake, flip back to a prior year, and it's going to show you what the budget and the actuals were for 2020 and for 2019.
So all of the information is there, just like in your booklet, but in a little bit more of an interactive way.
The additional thing that you can do, you can see right now you're looking at protective services expenses.
If you could read this clearly from that distance, you would see fire services, emergency planning, building inspection, other protective, so on.
But there is a little plus symbol that might be hard to see from there.
That when you pop down the plus symbol, and it works the same way as in the budget variance dashboard, that you can drill down to the next level, and then you can drill down to the next level, to the account level detail, which is all exactly the information that you have had in the past.
But initially, and I'm going to go over here and reset the filter.
Initially, it's not quite so overwhelming because you're at kind of at a at a higher level, and you it allows you to drill down into the level if that's what you want to do without kind of overwhelming you with all of the details.
And and that's that's really all.
Uh I do hope that um council will take an opportunity to have a look at this.
I'll be sending out an email with a link um later on to later on today or tomorrow morning.
And uh certainly stand by to assist you if you need any help.
Thank you, Don.
Counselor Lemon.
I I just have a comment, Don.
And I don't know if you're writing your own code, but it seems every year you come to us with a new way of making it easier and some new online program.
So I haven't seen this one yet, you know, right here, but I will thank you in advance for trying to make it easier for us.
And may I thank council for the approval?
This all of this is available to us at uh what what we would call low code.
It's not no code, but it's kind of low code for the for the likes of me to be able to do it.
But when council approved the decision, and I've said this before, to go to Office 365 or Microsoft 365, these are the tools that came with that decision.
And to be honest, I didn't even realize what we could do when we made that decision.
Um so so really it was a little bit of foresight there, and we use the tools way more um uh extensively for staff analysis than even council can see right where your enthusiasm is certainly infectious as well for thank you any other questions thank you Don yeah we'll look forward to looking at it and then obviously discussing the details more as we move into the budget next week absolutely thank you so just need a motion to receive so moved thank you all in favor opposed that's carried and of course the highlight of our meeting.
We now go to our CAO report.
Thank you, your worship.
So this report discusses the activity in January and um as usual, a January 31st deadline drives significant front-counter activity at town hall with the renewal of business licenses and secondary suites.
In addition, during the month of January, we have the usual annual file turnover.
And so our staff are busy.
Older files are being boxed and moved to on site storage.
And while those at the end of their life cycle are being prepared for secure destruction.
At the same time, of course, we're creating new files for this new year.
We did advertise for the town's two advisory committees in January with appointments and reappointments to be considered by council shortly, probably next month.
Um, administration staff are coordinating staffing competitions to hire a new building inspector, and of course, uh the director of engineering uh position is also to be filled.
Uh, staff continue to monitor the COVID 19 situation and messaging from BC's provincial health officer as new variants have emerged.
Health and safety are top of mind with physical distancing among staff being continued and improved mask options provided.
We do see a more elastic approach evolving in the communications from the province and BC Center for Disease Control, and we're looking forward to the uh the restrictions being made lighter overall.
The finance department, the 2020, the 2022 to 2026 financial planning process is scheduled to begin February 15th.
Finance staff are also focused on preparation of the 2021 financial statements in advance of the year-end audit scheduled for early April.
In addition, in terms of the financial planning process, grant and aid applications are currently being accepted for consideration in the town's 2022 financial plan.
The deadline for applications is March 1st, and staff have begun informing potential applicants through the town's website and social media platforms.
Staff continue to focus on cybersecurity and internet technology with or information technology with planning underway for further pushing test campaigns and continued training for new and current employees.
In development services, major policy projects such as the community climate action strategy are nearing conclusion.
A draft of the strategy is on the agenda this evening.
The OCP update is progressing with online workshops and a second survey launched at the end of January.
In addition to using the town's website and social media platforms, posters were placed in four parks and a mail out inviting participation in online workshops, and a survey was sent to 3,960 property owners and 790 rental units.
The three workshops are good participation, and a what we heard report will be on the March Committee of the Whole agenda.
The search for the new billion inspector continues, and in the meantime, staff are turning their attention to policy in the area of building construction.
A report is on this agenda regarding the STEP code and how town is how the town is beginning to work collaboratively with other municipalities to advance energy efficiency in new buildings.
On the development side, there are rezoning applications, development permits, and development variants permits and process.
Applications to the Board of Variants have been slow over the past year, though the Board of Variants convened in December for a half-day training session.
Board members and staff felt this is a productive learning opportunity, and these volunteers look forward to reviewing future applications.
In the engineering department, following a series of weather events, poor regional road conditions and vehicle malfunctions, the residential curbside garbage and kitchen scraps program is back on schedule.
I'm sure our residents are pleased to see that.
The town entered into two works and services agreements in January for the subdivision of 148 Atkins Road and for the development of 2379 Lund Road townhouses.
The off-site works at ABC Transit's handy dart site have commenced with the realignment of the Galloping Goose Regional Trail.
The goose would be closed between Burnside Road West and Telcott Road for the next several weeks while the trail is realigned to create a shallower incline.
Trail users are being diverted to Watkins Way during the closure.
Spring is almost at hand.
Tree well and shrub bed maintenance is now underway.
Preparation for the spring season includes pruning, removal of the weeds, and mulching.
Mulch is a great weed suppressant and assists in keeping moisture in the ground.
Maps were created to supplement the 2022 OCP workshop presentation and the January COW discussion on View World Sidewalk Snow Clearing.
The View Royal GIS portal has been updated to include 2022 engineering incidents and tree permits, which can be viewed in their respective dashboards.
The engineering and park viewers have been updated.
The street furniture layer has been symbolized to distinguish the distinct types of infrastructure owned by the town.
And that concludes the content of the CAU report for January.
Thank you, Kim.
Questions for Kim.
Councillor Matson.
Yes, thank you.
I was uh I I noted that on the previous presentation, I didn't see any reference to the new sidewalk snow removal uh uh equipment that we talked about earlier.
So I'm just wondering if that's that's in the mix or staff are still going to be bringing us back a report on that.
Perhaps our director of engineering and parks can comment.
Thank you.
And I presume it's still staff is it was referred to staff.
Director Rosenberg?
Thank you, uh your worship.
Yes, um, it is in process, and um, we're hoping to bring it to the March Cal for consideration.
And then if uh it gets there, then uh we can incorporate into the uh five-year financial plan.
Okay, thank you.
Is that it, Councillor Matson?
Sorry, yes, that's it.
Okay, thank you, Mr.
Rosenberg.
Counselor Rogers.
Uh yeah, uh thank thank you um for the report.
A question also to to uh Mr.
Rosenberg, please.
Um the Kerwood replacement of uh the Grinder pump, how much does that cost the town?
We haven't got all our invoicing in yet, but um it turned out that at the end of the day, it was on the homeowner's side.
So um with the pump and everything, you know, if before I see the bills, I'd say twelve hundred,200, $1,500.
Okay, fine.
Thank you.
One question I have through Kim, probably to the director of development services, is 298 Island Highway.
Are you able to give us an update on that?
That's the lake we have at the corner of Helmican and Island Highway.
Thank you, your worship.
I'm not sure why my camera is not working.
Ah, there we go, a little delay.
Uh we are, um, it's my understanding that they have elected to proceed with independent site remediation, and that that process uh takes quite some time.
So they are um unfortunately, because of the way the the site remediation process is set up, they're exempt from soil removal requirements.
Um now it's just a it's a waiting game for them to bring in their building permit application and get going on the construction.
But they need the provincial approval, their CFC, in order to do that.
So what what just to carry that on a little bit further, in our bylaws, what I mean, how long can that site be left looking like that?
I mean, it's unsightly.
There's no question to me.
So I mean, when you say a lengthy, is it one year, two years, six months?
It's my understanding that the delays at the province for obtaining a CFC are are around a year right now.
Oh so they probably shouldn't have done the demolition and the digging, right?
I mean that that I mean I don't want to go on about this too much.
I could talk to Kim about it offline, but that hole is full of water, which is only going to get stagnant and unpleasant.
I just think it's kind of odd that they could take it to that point and leave it with no permit, but I can discuss that offline.
Kim?
Uh staff have discussed the issue uh in the last couple weeks.
Um it is a concern that we share.
However, when you look at the process to remediate it, there's definitely a requirement to excavate, remove soils, treat soils and the like.
Right.
Not unlike our experience with 280 Island Highway, where it took uh a very long time and a very tedious process to see the project advance.
Yeah.
Councillor Rogers?
Yeah, thank you for bringing that up, your worship.
Um my worries is that um, and you know, tell me I'm wrong, but my worries is that we got the lake, and so now we have uh the water that's um possibly acting as a mechanism to carry um the contaminants um leaching, if you like, into um other areas of view oil and and possibly uh down into um into Helmican Bay.
Um so I'm I'm surprised that we would leave that leaching possibility of uh those contaminants.
And wonder if staff could help me on that.
Well, it sounds like it's a provincial matter more than a local matter, but Lindsay, can you thank you, your worship?
I I wouldn't be concerned about leaching in this situation.
The whole is the result of removing the materials that were were um uh uh removing the contaminated materials, not leaving contaminate, not leaving contamination present.
Thank you.
Just whenever I see that sort of thing i think of Calwood and the pit the lake that was there for multiple multiple years years yeah okay thank you do we have any other questions for the CAO on his report and lead on i h I hope with the next um when there's another fishing test that um maybe you could send send the mayor an email and advance that a fishing test is soon to go out so I'll be I'll be looking for it.
Um okay.
I just need a motion to send the CAO one as well.
But um I need a motion to receive the report.
Second.
All in favor, opposed.
That's carried.
Thank you.
Thank you, everyone.
We'll see you back here at 7.
Okay, thank you very much.
I think we might as well reconvene the meeting.
So I'm going to call back to order the committee of the whole meeting.
So the public has the opportunity under public participation to speak to any item on the agenda tonight.
And public participation is going to come up almost immediately.
So if you're wanting to speak to anything on the agenda tonight, please call 778-402-9227.
And when prompted, enter conference ID 605-307-000 pound.
And at the appropriate time in the agenda, I will announce the last four digits of your phone number.
Ask you to mute the live webcast to avoid feedback.
Ask you to not use speakerphone to ensure sound quality, and ask that you unmute yourself by pressing star six.
And if you can give us your name and address for the record, this meeting will be recorded by participating in this webcast.
You are consenting to being recorded, and the recording will be available on the town website for future access.
And we have no petitions and delegations, so we are right at public participation.
So do we have any callers on the line, Steph?
Your worship, we have a caller, last four digits.
Last four digits 0569.
Caller with the last four digits 0569.
Okay, thank you.
This is your opportunity.
Oh, good evening.
Uh thank you, Marin Council.
It's Jane Devonshire again from 242 Glen Early Drive, speaking on behalf of the VRC to item 9.2.3A, the draft community climate action strategy.
What specifically left out at me was a statement regarding RNG, renewable natural gas, on page 58, I believe, stating that this could be a future option.
I would like to debunk that now.
This is a pipe dream and greenwashing by Fortis and is in no way achievable.
I will follow up on this by sending you some supporting documents, but just wanted to bring this to council's attention this evening.
My firsthand experience with RNG was when I made inquiries several years ago to Fortis as I wanted to do my part and choose cleaner, greener options.
I was told I would pay a premium for this, which I was prepared to do.
I asked how this would be piped to my home.
They said, Oh no, we don't do that.
You're just helping to reduce our use of natural gas.
The government had mandated Fortas to have 15% of their fuel from RNG.
So, in essence, I would be supporting Fortis to meet their targets and subsidizing them with a premium to boot.
So their claims that they can pipe 100% RNG into our homes and buildings just is not true.
They cannot even reach the 15% target.
I think they currently sit at around 3-5%.
Take note too that this RNG would be sourced from outside our region.
They are even scouring the U.S.
resources.
It would still emit GHGs, so in no way does it help us reduce our emissions.
And FYI, some of us lobbied successfully to get the CRD to put the brakes on the expansion of Heartland Landfill.
The solid waste management plan is looking to drastically reduce the amount of organics going to the landfill, which will equate to even less methane emissions to be captured by Fortis.
The infrastructure to pipe this out is prohibitively expensive, so it is not even a viable option.
Thank you again for listening to our concerns.
Thank you, Jane.
Thank you for calling in.
Thank you, Marc Reach.
Are there any other callers on the line, Staff?
Your worship, we your worship, we have an additional caller.
Last four digits 0604.
Caller with the last four digits 0604.
This is your opportunity.
Hi, this is Kathy Blanchard at 290 Island Highway.
And I would like to speak to item 9.2.3A1, which is the Community Climate Action Strategy.
We have been anxiously anticipating a document that illuminates where we are, where we want to go, and how we get there.
I'm hopeful that your worship and council will consider my comments as the report might be seen by residents of View Royal.
First, my first observation was that the actual table of action items were not easy to find, given that was my primary interest.
To avoid redundancy, instead of the abbreviated table of strategies within the executive summary, could it be considered to actually put the big move strategy tables from page 55 through 68 without all the explanations and graphics immediately following the executive summary?
The whys and wherefores forming the bulk of the report don't really matter in an action strategy.
The what's, when's, and hows are the most important part.
When this document is actually in use by His Worship, counselors, staff, and the public, it would seem reasonable that they could have those pages front and center.
To accomplish climate goals, every action and decision will have to be made through the lens of climate action, and this document should be driving decision making.
Secondly, there are several places in the report where it is suggested the heavy lifting is by the residents and businesses.
That messaging will fall on deaf ears.
Until required to wear a mask by the public health orders, most people didn't, even though their life might depend on it.
There should be more emphasis on the leveraging of municipal powers and less about residents and businesses having the biggest role.
If we rely on individual choices, little will change.
This report should state that the strongest role is on the municipality to establish requirements that support the vision, resulting in willing cooperation by residents and businesses to achieve the highest and best for View Royal.
Throughout the action items, all are directed at government, either by infrastructure, policy, or outreach.
I am hopeful that this and future government will take a hard stand on climate change.
Third, I would have liked to see more specific action related to in the adaptation section, and that it be a section within the report rather than an appendix.
This report was not limited to greenhouse gas emission reduction, but was an all-encompassing climate action strategy, of which adaptation like sandbake and cooling stations are to be commonplace.
I don't see Appendix B as modified to include coping strategy for adaptation, nor Appendix C as appendix material.
Things like CRD provincial and national strategy could have been appendices.
Adaptation strategy and progress accountability do not support the report.
They are a component of the report.
Fourth, it is projected that there will be 80 energy improved homes and 40 more homes with replaced heating systems annually by 2030.
Is this in the View Royal budget to support rebates on an ongoing basis?
Calculation is 40 homes with $350 rebate potential is about $14,000 annually through 2030 to say nothing of supporting those 80 homes with their improvements.
Do we know how many homes have made the switch to date?
Fifth, the gray chart on page 19 PDF indicates we are not going to reach our target.
I see the CCAS suggests we have to count on future innovation to address the gray area to get to the red line, but I thought the objective of this report was to get us to the red line with the current best available information.
I think it might be important to clearly identify what elements within the gray area are out of our control, which are assigned per capita, such as marine traffic, etc., or reduce the targets if they're unattainable.
Lastly, the schedule for evaluation under accountability seems to be universally established to be posted every two years with an unknown lag.
Should there be an action item to push for requiring a COVID like dashboard on climate change federally, provincially, and locally?
Thank you.
I appreciate being offered the opportunity to share my thoughts on this long-awaited document.
Thank you for calling in, Kathy.
You're welcome.
Do we have any other callers on the line?
Your worship, we have no other callers for the public participation section at this time.
Okay, thank you.
Is there anyone in the room who'd like to speak under public participation?
No.
Okay.
So we'll close off public participation and there's nothing on parks.
So we're gonna go right to planning and development, and I'll just keep sharing, Councillor Matson, shall I?
Okay.
I think that was a nod.
Yes, please.
Thank you.
And so we're gonna go right to staff reports, the draft community climate action strategy.
Thank you, Your Worship.
Just double-checking sure I'm not muted here.
Can people hear me?
We can better now than yeah.
Say something again, Jep.
Okay, this is Jeff Chow, senior planner.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Um the purpose of the report uh is is to introduce the draft community climate action strategy to the committee for comment.
Uh the outline of the presentation will be a brief background, uh, high-level overview of the draft community community climate action strategy from our consultant.
Uh uh some discussion on the council referrals that were made to the strategy process and the next steps.
So the purpose of the community climate action strategy is to forecast community gas, greenhouse gas emissions, set emissions reductions targets, which is which is a legislative requirement, develop a plan to meet those targets while working towards carbon neutrality and increase community awareness, encourage actions by individuals to reduce emissions.
And that's that would be done through an online resource guide.
Um, that's kind of a side project to this uh to the strategy here, and to establish strategies of regular monitoring and progress reporting.
Um, just to clarify, the community emissions, the purpose of this strategy are territorial-based, that are emissions that are generated locally, not consumption based.
For example, um emissions generated elsewhere in the production of food and other goods.
And just responding to one of the comments from public participation is that adaptation would be a uh a future project that's actually that's identified in the um in the financial plan to be considered by council shortly.
And this uh but this strategy does lay the groundwork for that.
So um as members will recall, there was public engagement that was conducted in the fall, consisting of several workshops and a community survey.
And earlier in January, the emissions targets were set at the January Council 18th Council meeting to uh uh to try to achieve a goal of 45 percent emissions from 2007 levels by 2030 and a longer term goal of 100% from 2007 levels by 2050.
So next is item two of the uh presentation where I will hand it over to um Robin Webb from Community Energy Association, who was the uh consultant uh in preparing this strategy.
Great, thank you, Jeff.
Welcome, Robin.
Hi, everyone.
Thanks very much for giving me some time to talk with you tonight.
Uh my name is Robin Webb.
I'm the climate solutions lead with the community Energy Association and one of the team that worked on V Royal's climate action strategy.
We just want to advance to the next slide.
So today I'm just going to give you a brief overview of the project as a whole.
So we'll talk a little bit about the engagement process, about where current emissions in V-Royal come from, and some of the limitations on the levers available to you to manage some of those.
One of the questions that came up, I'll try to address that.
We'll talk about your new targets and uh the implementation strategy, looking at the big moves.
What are the things that you need to do to get there?
And we'll follow off just talking about some of the key implementation factors that would help you be successful in moving from just having a strategy to actually putting it into action.
So if we move on to the next slide, we wanted to be very clear about what the scope of this work was.
And it's good that it did come up in one of the comments earlier.
This is a plan, again, that's to leverage local government powers to save residents and businesses energy emissions and money.
It's part of a broader package of local government climate action strategies that would include things like a corporate energy and emissions plan that looks at things like your own fleets and buildings, and a larger adaptation strategy that would look at your climate risks in more detail than what we've done in this strategy.
That being said, as Jeff mentioned, we did try to look at all of the mitigation-related strategies in the plan and identify where there were adaptation and resiliency benefits from them.
And so a little bit later, I'll provide an example to sort of show you what we mean by that.
So if we move to the next slide.
Residents and key stakeholders to participate.
Some counselors were also there, which was excellent.
The first workshop used a backcasting approach where we were asking residents of View Royal to think about what a low-carbon future would look like.
So if we move to the next slide.
So if we look at this slide right here, these are the actual sticky notes and notes from those engagement sessions where residents said, you know, they'd like to see things like an integrated and multimodal transportation network in the future, etc.
If we move on to identify where they thought you were now, just as a useful exercise in addressing what some of the barriers to implementation of the actions would look like.
And so on this slide, this was from the buildings group.
We talked about, you know, that a lot of the talent and expertise to actually decarbonize your buildings already exist in the region, but there might be some supply chain issues that are actually, you know, going to cause barriers to that in the future.
So if we move to the next slide, this is an indication of where your current emissions come from in View Royal.
So if you look at that very large blue slice in the pie chart and also on the bar graph, that's from passenger vehicles.
The next biggest source of emissions would definitely be from buildings, both commercial and residential buildings.
If Jeff, if you could just advance one more, it should animate.
There are a number of categories that are very hard for local governments to try to have influence over.
The speaker earlier mentioned marine transportation, that's part of the off road transportation category that includes aviation emissions as well.
So while these emissions are associated with view royal residence and activities that happen within your boundaries, they're not necessarily things that you have really salient tools to use.
So we just wanted to point that out in talking about the fact that it will be hard to reach a zero emissions scenario given that local governments have limited capacity to influence some of these emissions, especially around things like um industrial processes and product use as well.
So if we move on to the next slide.
Um, just to talk a little bit about targets.
Oh, sorry, that was the animation there.
So you guys had um approved these targets interim just uh so that we could do the modeling associated with the plan.
And so we're looking at a 45% reduction in emissions by 2030 and 100% reductions by 2050.
So um I congratulate you on choosing those ambitious targets.
They are aligned with the science and what the intergovernmental panel on climate change says that we need to do to limit warming to 1.5 degrees.
And um, I just wanted to note um, I know that Jeff had done a scan of some of the other targets from other local governments in the region.
Just to say um previously I used to work for the city of Victoria.
Victoria's climate action strategy doesn't actually have these targets in it.
It was being drafted at the time that the IPCC actually released that science right after the strategy was done.
So a lot of the climate emergency declarations that have followed, a lot of places in the region now have very similar targets to this, but you're not necessarily going to find them in their actual plans because this is a forever shifting landscape.
For instance, while we were in the middle of making your plan, the province released the Clean BC roadmap to 2030.
So a new provincial climate plan.
The CRD released a new climate plan.
The federal government will release their updated implementation strategy in the next couple of months.
So this is a pretty dynamic field and it's always changing.
At least with the provinces plan, we were able to incorporate some of the work that they did into your strategy.
But just noting, yeah, the landscape is forever changing.
So, and while these targets were ultimately chosen by you, we did see that uh the public surveys backed up that level of ambition as well, too, that residents wanted to see that.
So, moving on to the next slide.
Um, this is the one that proved to be a bit controversial.
So, if you look at this, this is your emissions trajectory into the future.
All of the colorful lines represent emissions reductions associated with the big moves.
And so you can see that your emissions are going to trend down towards 2030 if you implement those big moves, but that we are going to need additional levels of ambition from other levels of government.
We are going to need technological improvements to actually achieve that zero emissions scenario.
And you know, just to um there was talk about moving part of the strategy, really talked about what other levels of government are doing on climate.
The reason that that was positioned at the forefront is just to say, you know, as the most subordinate level of government, local governments do actually have the least levers at their disposal too.
However, we've we think we've identified the best ones that are you know firmly within your control and things that you can start doing today.
So it is um, you know, it is a bit tricky to see this and to see that the emissions don't trend down to zero, but we're also trying to be pragmatic here and not give you um, you know, too much of a rosy view on this, too, and that it is going to take every level of government to achieve these targets at some point in time.
Um, it's also another reason why we suggest local governments update their climate plans every five years, because as I just said, this landscape is forever shifting.
Um, and the need to update the modeling every five years is, I think, very necessary in order to show what your pathway to a zero emission scenario will look like in the future.
So if we go to the next slide, this is where we start to talk about some of the more interesting stuff.
What do the implementation strategies or the big moves actually look like that you can start implementing today?
So if we move on to the next slide, um the CEA, we use this big moves framework to identify all of the high impact areas where local governments in BC can influence emissions.
So we've put them into three different categories around transportation, buildings, and waste.
So you'll see your strategies also organized in this way.
So we have numerous policies that fit under this shift beyond the car, which are looking at encouraging active and accessible transportation and transit, but also about compactness and completeness.
That's where the land use related strategies are found.
There's a bunch around electrifying transportation and accelerating the adoption of zero emissions vehicles.
Buildings step up new buildings, enhancing energy efficiency and low carbon heating options in new buildings, but then also decarbonizing existing buildings.
And in waste, the big focus is on continuing to divert more and more organics from the landfill.
So if we move on, you know, we don't have enough time to go into all of the various implementation strategies tonight.
So I thought I would just share a sampling of them from each of the different categories with you.
So if we're looking at transportation, um, the strategy has things around normalizing pedestrian and cycling for streets, and around collaborating with the Capital Region District on a regional EV charging station network.
If we move on to the next slide, which focuses on buildings.
You know, again, commend you guys as we're working on the strategy, you know, we're working on your implementation actions, and you guys actually passed a lot of our recommendations.
So this one was going to be, you know, start topping up clean B VC incentives for heat pumps, but you did that, and I guess, yeah, it'll be a future consideration of you know how much you do into the future, and the strategy has provided you with some advice looking at that.
Um, and I also realized that you guys have uh you're looking at step code as well, too.
So there's um recommendations on you know, adopting step code, but also considering a low-carbon approach, and that's well defined in the strategy as well.
So if we look at the very last category on waste, um, we're talking about expanding organics pickup to multi-unit residential buildings, just ensuring that all residents have that organic pickup and that you're reducing the amount that's ending up in the landfill.
Next slide.
So just when you're looking at the strategy, we've put all of the implementation actions into this framework here where we identify what the strategy is, a summary of the different actions, which of the local government levers it uses.
So is it infrastructure related, is it policy or regulation, or engagement and outreach?
We've also identified a timeframe for implementation and just some high-level thinking on costs as well.
So moving on to the next slide.
Again, so when we're looking at those actions and thinking about, you know, primary focuses on reducing emissions, but we also included information for you about which of those implementation actions would help increase resiliency in VROil.
And one of the examples that I wanted to share with you was the incentives to help promote heat pump adoption.
While heat pumps reduce emissions by providing low carbon heating, they also provide cooling and air filtration.
So if we're looking at some of your risks going into the future, you know, they help prepare residents for those severe heat events, but also for dealing with forest fire smoke as well.
So that's what we're primarily trying to do is show, you know, where some of the things are a little bit more holistic.
And when you get to creating that adaptation strategy, at least you'll be able to pull some of those in right away.
And if we go to the next slide.
Leave on a you know a really positive note in saying, you know, while the focus here is on reducing emissions, we know that there are innumerable co-benefits associated with implementing climate action, things like you know, economic development and job creation, you know, and improved air quality.
And to point out that this strategy now helps uh you guys to meet your legislative GHG requirements through the uh province's climate action charter and positions you well for funding programs that um all of the different levels of government are releasing.
And if we move on to the next one.
Um this is uh CEA and another group called Quest did very extensive research a number of years ago that looked at the key success factors for moving from strategies to implementation.
This is a snapshot of some of those where we highly recommend that you incorporate climate action into all of your strategic planning documents, such as OCPs, bylaws, council reports.
And we know that your upcoming OCP is going to have some crossover with climate.
We've already talked about that with staff, which is great.
But also thinking about embedding climate action into the budgeting process.
There are some places that have done this, not just for the climate action budget items specifically, but looking at the impact of different budget packages on climate as well.
We created a monitoring and evaluation section that has different things that you can track over time.
And we recommend that that happens, you know, on a on a yearly basis that that gets brought back to council.
On networking and convening, I'll the next slide I'll talk a little bit more about that.
But lastly, you know, as I mentioned before, you know, planning for renewal every five years, just so that your strategy captures all the latest developments in the field.
So to wrap up on this last slide, um, are just some invitations to, you know, while we acted as Euroconsultants for this plan, CEA is a nonprofit, and we do provide broad based support for local government local governments across BC on implementing climate action.
We run staff networks on topics such as electric vehicles, retrofits, and the BC Energy Step Code.
And we also run, it's just been rebranded to BC Climate Leaders.
It used to be called the BC Municipal Climate Leaders Council.
And so that's an invite that goes out to council as well.
If any of you are wanting to be more involved in that, we run a climate leadership institute, and it's for elected officials who are really interested in learning more and leading on this.
If uh if any of that's of interest to you, feel free to get in touch.
We'd love to have you involved.
And so um just some time for questions before I pass it back off to Jeff.
Okay, thank you very much.
I'm sure there'll be some.
Thank you very much for the report.
Who'd like to start?
Councillor Rogers.
Yeah, thank you.
Um, it took me a couple hours to get through this and think of all the implications, and and um I I definitely want the advisory committees to get into this, but I'm having a distinct feeling that they're not going to be able to do this in two hours.
It's going to be quite a quite a slogging session.
You know, it's um um uh there's a lot of different uh aspects here to go through.
Um uh you know, first off, in in terms of uh let's say operational definitions, you have a glossary um yeah i don't see that sea level rise was in the glossary of terms.
Oh, okay.
We can uh we can add that yeah and it may be that um you know we will become accustomed to adaptation and mitigation and maybe those are terms that um that need to be defined for for the public as well um you know when uh and i'm gonna jump all over the place here but you know when you sure talked about short term long term uh medium term uh I would sure hope that the policies and regulations do not take three to seven years.
You know the policies and regulations should be short term quick hit get it on because we have so many uh remarkable municipalities that are already uh well ahead that we can learn from and we don't have to reinvent the wheel.
Um, in fact, uh, you know, I'm really pleased that staff are working with the other municipalities in the CRD on step code.
And so because we see the urgency and and things are changing so much.
So I would really want to see that policies and stuff short term.
We can't wait.
For seven years, we're we'd be toast.
Well, and especially um the nice thing about some of the regulatory actions is they're the ones that are the lower cost ones when you're looking, you know, they're not the infrastructure projects where you need multi-million dollar budgets.
But you are right.
Um, when I started working for the city of Victoria, it was wonderful how we could collaborate through the CRD in you know, cost sharing consultants to do the background work for things like electric vehicle readiness, the implementation of step code, which I think View Royal will benefit from hugely as well too.
Yeah I'm open to plagiarism.
That that's what those peer networks are all about is about sharing and sealing and you know we need to be working on this in collaboration.
Yeah I I I also sympathize with um uh the callers that came in as well as uh Mr.
Brown that wrote the letter and and um you know quite frankly I don't think it's ultimately up to the residents.
I I think that um we can get resident buy-in and one of the things that again I see the other municipalities and I hope we do it that we uh enable through the website uh everybody to be able to go and see their carbon footprint.
And so that's that's not something that I saw that was available to people to measure their carbon footprint and and reflect on how they can reduce.
We had a lot of conversation about that, and Jeff might also want to pipe in here too.
There um is an app under development called the Lighter Footprint app.
Um, and so there was debate about whether you create your own View Royal focused tool or use that in the future.
Your neighbors in Saanich already actually have a tool similar to that.
Um I'll let Jeff and Lindsay speak to that, but I I just wanted to make one comment on the strategy being focused on residents and businesses.
It's not the intent that it looks like that they're supposed to do the heavy lifting.
So maybe that is where we can go back and make edits to de-emphasize that because that was definitely not, you know, this is View Royal's strategy.
The accompanying um public facing document that it is looking more at what residents can do, but also how can you support them as the local government?
Absolutely because especially when we look at something like retrofits, you know, you can provide incentives, but ultimately you need residents to uptake them and to actually do the work.
So it's a bit of it's a partnership too.
It's not uh Jeff had his hand up.
Jeff, did you want to jump in on something?
Thank you.
Um I was similar to what Robin was saying, it's um so the online resource guide is is being developed kind of parallel to the community action strategy.
That'll be a product that comes out after the strategy is completed and it'll be basically be primarily web-based and it'll provide a lot of um information to assist uh residents to make choices.
Um and as Robin said, it is a partnership.
So for example, um the this this strategy helps the town facilitate uh changes in behavior.
It's just like uh when you look at cycling, a lot of people don't feel comfortable cycling if the bike lanes, if there aren't any bike lanes, we can put it in the bike lanes, but again, ultimately it's up to the resident to choose to ride their bikes on those bike lanes.
So it is quite a circular kind of um issue, but uh but part of it is is if the municipality can do the part to sort of make it easy for uh residents and businesses to make different choices then then that's really one of the best things that that the that we can do.
Okay thank you Joe.
I'd like to go around now.
Okay counselor Lemmon yeah thank you thank you Robin it's a it's a very fulsome report and uh I I appreciate that.
I do want to pick up on one of the comments from the callers and that was that the the uh the the gist the stuff that actually the can do stuff the action items are, you know I you know, you can imagine eyes glazing over um by the time they get to page 54 and then they give up.
And and and you know, the the good stuff does happen around page 55.
So if perhaps there is, you know, I without rewriting the the report, but perhaps you can build into um the exec summary or or just below the exec summary, some of those points.
Just there is actually a table that summarizes all of the implementation actions in the executive summary.
Um, I don't know offhand what page it would be, but that was our attempt at putting it up at the front so that people could see, but you have to go to the larger tables to really dig into what those recommendations are.
We could always take the implementation tables and make them as a standalone PDF so that on your website, you know, we could say, you know, that if you just want to go to that part, it's um again, we always want to contextualize some of the stuff before people get to that point.
But you're right, for not everyone's willing to do that reading.
So there's a bunch of different ways that that can be uh could be approached.
Yeah, well, you know, it's very well thought out, and and you know, because residents did contribute, um, I I I believe that residents see that they have a piece in this, um, that it's you know, certainly it's you know, we need to provide the infrastructure.
Um, but if if if residents can see themselves and we can make it easy for them to participate and to want to um what to reduce their their carbon footprint without breaking the bank, you know, or putting in you know huge effort.
Um I I would like it to be a usable document that they can turn to and you know, granted it's ours, but it's theirs too.
And um the public facing document that we're creating does have a more brief introduction to the strategy before it goes into looking at the sorts of things that residents can do too.
So again, for people who are not willing to you know crack open the uh the depth of a strategy, um, staff you know had rightfully thought about that and put it into the RFP for this project too to have that sort of a guide for people that could be used, you know, even by school teachers and people like that.
Like it's uh, you know, the aim is to keep it between five to ten pages that it's that'd be terrific.
Yeah, yeah.
And if residents can see themselves in here and and in the public facing piece, um, and what they can do and and and what is possible, that would be great.
Thanks very much.
Counselor Koranovich.
Thank you.
Obviously, a comprehensive report.
Uh, no secret there.
Lots uh lots happening, lots lots of content.
Um, and and I agree with my colleague here that that kind of literature will be challenging for a lot of people.
So I'm happy to hear we're working on that public facing document.
And that was kind of a line along the lines of what I was talking about.
In your experience, what is going to get the uh, you know, the average constituents' attention and grab them out and say, Hey, look at this.
Um, you know, we're we're getting greener here, we're worried about climate change.
This is what you can do.
You got a busy life?
Do you got a family.
What in your experience, what's grabbing people's attention?
I think they it's that someone is creating an easy to use guide for them that dispels myths.
There's no longer, you know, the thought that uh recycling and things like that are the things that are gonna get us to a zero emissions future, that they have to be slightly more transformative than that, and that it is going to involve a lot of the pieces of your everyday life, like your home and where you live, how you get around, that these are the things that are are going to have to be shifted to get us to that low carbon future.
And in some ways, that might not be all that different.
Some people are gonna start driving electric vehicles, but we do need more people to start walking and cycling more too.
So I think it's yeah, just having that easy to use guide that provides that clear direction that's really focused on emissions reductions and getting us to targets is what uh is what people need.
Um when I used to work for the city of Edmonton and we did a number of educational undertakings, things like um funding nonprofits to do things like an eco-solar home tour where residents who lived in Edmonton could open up their homes who had done this sort of work and talked to other residents about it.
You know, those are the types of things that I think got people really excited about doing this work.
And there's an element of seeing other people in your community having done it too.
So, you know, those are the sorts of things that maybe you can uh profile in the future as well.
Yeah.
One, I guess, more of a comment, but one something that I I've certainly noticed with a young family is that uh the youth and and even you know elementary school children in Canada, in particular, probably the West Coast, and I'll pumble our own tires a bit out here, but they are truly aware of the environment.
And uh they're they're certainly much more environmentally conscious than I I think any other generation ever has been.
So I mean, I would love us here to tug on their hard strings, and then that gets the parents bought in.
So just for what it's worth, and I and I see that movement happening already with with my own kids.
Yeah.
Um, and you're lucky that the CRD has lots of great educational programs for schools.
They have active and safe routes to school programming, they have um other program that they do with a nonprofit that i think i'm forgetting the name of it now but it's all climate education for the schools here so uh again you're in a a lucky spot that a lot of those things exist and i think um kids are already getting that information which is great because then we'll see it start to crick it up hopefully too okay thank you thanks counselor mattson did you have anything you wanted to absolutely so thank you very much, uh Robin, for your report.
One of and i i won't repeat a number of the things my my colleagues have said, um, but but i think the only way this we can make any sort of progress in in reducing uh GHDs is you know providing both uh a carrot to the public and as well as sort of the the policy stick to to force people to do things, especially when it comes to to new construction.
And in sort of looking at sort of some of the recommendations, and and one of them was just uh this this was a recommendation in that came in its staff report by by PREAC to provide uh $3,000 per household to basically replace furnaces, etc.
Um, I think we really need to lower what we we do in terms of council, uh in terms of providing incentives to to the point where we aren't antagonizing the rest of the taxpayers who would probably see something like that is geez we're gonna buy these people new furnaces because they have old inefficient ones so on an individual on a taxpayer basis if we put in some policies that are just too too generous in terms of uh some of the infrastructure things uh we we're likely to get a lot of backlash from the public.
And I I think you don't have to necessarily actually, another thing that changed radically over the course of drafting this plan is BC Hydro was given an electrification mandate.
So you now have heat pump incentives from BC Hydro, Clean BC, which is the BC, and the Capital Regional District, too, as well as the federal government has released a greener homes grant program.
So the landscape again keeps on keeps on changing.
So you know, you're gonna have to staff will have to continually bring these sorts of updates back to you about how these things are changing over time because um hydro's heat pump rebate was only announced a couple months ago.
So I mean I got a heat pump uh a little over a year ago, and uh I know that the uh the rebates weren't you know only covered a small percentage of uh of the cost of the the heat pump, but again, one of the reasons you know I ended up doing that is just because rather than keeping the house cool using baseboards, it became less expensive to keep the house warm on a monthly basis with a heat pump.
Um similarly, and just for my colleagues who don't have who haven't bothered to to move to go to the electric car yet, the reason why we now have an electric car is you know $1.70 a liter uh gasoline.
And so those are the types of things I think that better we're gonna get people to make make those changes.
Um again, you need good education as well as again the uh the what the municipal could municipalities can do in terms of you know forcing people, especially in sort of new construction, et cetera, to do, as well as you know, providing good information to people on how they can go out and get funding from various, like you say, BC Hydro or you know, the federal government puts out grants for you know redoing windows, et cetera.
So it'll be good good if that information is all included in that public document you create.
And my understanding is that you guys recently supported the CRD's um regional retrofit service initiative, too, and that's very much what that initiative will be about too, is that you know they can provide the ongoing monitoring of all of the existing programs, provide those enticing um messages and marketing to residents so again not every local government has to be doing that on their own as well too so I think that's a a really nice approach and not one that uh we're seeing replicated across the province too.
So again I think being situated here in the capital region is all is also really good for V Royal in that sense.
And one other question I had was in terms of our targets for GHDs and as you noted they're nice to have those very optimistic targets, but we're never going to achieve them.
Now, certainly by the dates you have, because given how you know the ability of municipal governments to influence these things.
So is it appropriate to actually have such optimistic targets if we can't meet them?
Everything that we've modeled into the strategy are things that we think you can do.
And again, yes, we're not uh we're not showing you how to get that zero emissions scenario by 2050, but we're saying that you need to check in continually to see what has changed over time.
There's a lot of work being done right now, advocacy to the province and to the federal government to actually expand municipal powers in relation to climate change.
Again, when the Local Government act and things like that were drafted, climate change wasn't even a thing, too.
So I think over time we'll also see more regulatory powers start to be developed, like things like step code, electric vehicle readiness.
Those were not things that people could have done 10 years ago.
So again, yeah, trying to be optimistic and pragmatic at the same time is what we tried to present you with here today.
Okay.
Thank you.
Thanks.
I think you were doing a little bit of virtue signaling there, were you that you recently became an electric car owner?
I also was going to mention I had three electric vehicles, but I I just settled on the car one.
How did you get to Port Hardy?
Well, that's why I still have an older vehicle because I didn't want to spend three days trying to try to get here.
I wonder.
Counselor Rogers.
Yeah, my understanding you drove half the way and went by eBike the rest.
You know, again, coming back uh to the report, you know, I read that uh Vall has developed an online accessible resource guide.
I couldn't find it.
Yeah, sorry, that's what um we're just in the process of just finishing up right now.
We just put that in the plan so that it's there when the plan is uh is done.
Uh we're sorry, we should have put, you know, under development, we'll come to you soon.
But uh coming to the website near you.
All right, well, that's good.
Yeah.
Uh you have an acronym, MERGS.
That needs to go in if you're going to use the acronym.
You used it twice.
Oh, multi-unit residential buildings.
Sorry.
Yes, um, I think it's unfortunately one of the ones like where we did spell it out the first time, and then but we should put it in the glossary here, right?
If it's not in there, you know, and and throughout this, um terrific ideas, but it's always coming back to how, how, how, how do we get these done?
How do we implement it?
How do we measure it?
And uh on on that level, and and your worship helped me with this one.
Uh, the CRD did hire some some staff on on a climate action level.
Are they going to be able to provide municipalities with um more um real-time uh GSD measurements as time goes on those positions are being filled this year okay in the budget right this year yeah so that'll that will be very useful as you say and coming back to these and seeing and i and i hear from the from the public saying having it every two years is uh you know you could be missing the boat and and your measurements so i i understand annually for the measurements check and just to let you know you like you guys are already benefiting from the work of the CRD they paid for the studies that looked at electric vehicle readiness and new construction for instance, I used those when I implemented those bylaws in Victoria so um yeah, you're already benefiting from the work they've done, but then they're also planning uh an expansion of that as well, too so yeah I think it's um, you know, there was also on page 47 a workshop or something about community lifecycle infrastructure costing.
Yeah, it's a tool from the province.
Right.
So it, you know, it's great to have that uh in there, but unless you know it's it's like tell me more, tell me more, you know, footnote, you know, to some other web link, you know, so that we can see it.
And I think that's you know, you got a lot of really interesting ideas where you could link in, you know, if when people see it on the website, they can click on to the latest BC government and and so forth.
Uh so we can stay current and aware.
Yeah, that one I think is really for use from for staff too.
Just noting, you know, that almost all of the actions in the implementation strategy are things that will require, you know, a business case and uh a staff work plan to go along with them and we'll come back to you, you know, over time to for approval, I'm sure.
But yes, we can spell out that one for sure.
It's up the province created the tool for local governments to use.
So right.
Great that the CRD is doing uh all the EV charging stations, but um, you know, again, and I see EV charging stations in some malls, but uh I wonder how in the world can we leverage to make sure that they're in Eagle Creek, in Atapal Shopping Center, in you know, those places where the where Puppet goes.
Um I don't know.
Any any suggestions?
And I think the next phase of the CRD's work is to work with the local governments in the area to identify those areas that are in need of charging stations that are high, like frequency and use areas, but also to map where the existing ones are now.
So that's um they're applying for a um clean BC communities grant to actually do that work.
And hopefully that will apply to hospitals and schools as well.
Yeah, and hospitals and schools too.
We might just see that that becomes part of provincial government policy as well, too, that they start putting them in uh in the facilities that they either run or the ones that they fund too.
Well, that's uh yet to yet to be part of their green building policy, but I would think that that it will be in the future.
Our heat pump and incentives are for single family units.
Um and I wonder how we're going to um achieve the because we have we lost a lot of strata.
We've got strata buildings where we can't really influence what the strata council wants to do, and all they're look doing is looking at the bottom line.
So, again, how do we bring um them on board in a strata unit, townhouses or otherwise, that they'll go to heat pumps?
There are um incentive programs that exist today.
So the government of BC under Clean BC has better homes and better buildings, so the building better buildings program has some programs that like strata and market rental buildings would be covered off on.
We have not seen any local governments in BC outside of a pilot in Metro Vancouver actually provide subsidies to that yet, but it's a huge gap.
And so they're actually looking at how they can scale what was called the Strata Energy Advisor Program in Metro Vancouver up across the province.
With market rental buildings, there's a big challenge with the Local Government Act and the provisions around not aiding a business or providing incentives to businesses too.
So that um remains a challenge that local governments can't give incentives to market rental buildings, like direct financial incentives.
You could look at things like revitalization tax incentives to address that sector.
But I think you're you're bang on that's um what's on the forefront of thought right now is how we start influencing um other types of uh residential dwellings other than just single family homes, especially given that in our region, you know, they're becoming increasingly expensive as well too.
Yeah, you know, as you can tell, I've got a lot of questions, and maybe what I'll do is um, if you don't mind, I don't want to you know occupy, we have other things on the agenda work here.
Um so yeah, we're gonna do a draft too.
Yeah we're in progress.
And like I said, we're in a unique situation.
I work for a nonprofit too, so we can provide you know ongoing assistance and answer questions to you guys because we're not like traditional consultants too.
So I encourage you guys to to reach out.
We can set up meetings.
I live in Victoria, I'm nearby.
We can go for a coffee or have a walk or something and talk about this too.
But again, um also that um BC Climate Leaders have provides lots of info on these issues that we're discussing too for elected officials too.
I guess what I'm doing is I'm I'm wanting to go through that the uh the strategic plan, the suggestions, excellent suggestions, finding out how what the details, like you know.
Yeah, yeah.
Anyway, we'll we'll go through all that.
Sure, because we one thing we didn't do is you know, put a chart of who's done this where, but uh through conversation, I can help fill you in on some of the other places that have already implemented a lot of these things too.
Thank you.
We're actually creating a local government climate action tracker.
So when that's done in about five months, um, it'll also be really easy for you to look that up and say, Oh, well, you know, who has passed step code, what you know, for part nine or those single family homes, or for the more complex buildings, what step are they at and where?
And a big part of that is to help elected officials sort of get the lay of the land of what's happening across BC, too.
Yeah.
Thank you.
Thank you for your work.
I mean, I I agree with a lot of what's being said.
I really do like the idea, which these two touched on of uh something for the residents, you know, that they can really buy into and just small things that we can all do in our everyday life to to make the changes necessary.
And I think that's great is alongside the the higher level work that we need to do as a town.
So yeah it'll provide something on your website for you know residents to go to and find that and yeah the sort of things you can talk about at open houses and things like that too.
Day-to-day life choices that you can you can do yeah so thank you very much.
So, Jeff, did you want this to come back to you now or are we done?
Yes, please.
Uh we're almost done.
Okay, so go ahead.
So uh item three of our presentation.
Um in developing the strategy, a number of um of comments, a lot of them from the uh from the Parts Recreation and Advisory and Environment Advisory Committee were were brought forward as points to consider in developing the strategy.
And I'm pleased to say uh nearly all of them are part of the strategy.
Um a couple things that aren't are the municipal natural assets inventory, which is the the strategy is focused on emissions and natural assets inventory is um is more about sex sequestration, carbon uh sequestration.
Um one other idea to consider was that developers provide a greenhouse gas assessment for tree loss when developing a site.
And the approach that we would be taking instead is is is likely to look at look at at a higher level in terms of measuring tree canopy over the next couple years.
So I think the CRD has done some studies on that and we're looking at ways to sort of look at some interim measures because they don't they only do it every every uh every so many years.
The other item was installing solar voltaics on all buildings.
So municipalities can regulate land use, but um but how buildings uh are constructed is is outside the sphere of influence at the at this time.
So uh so again uh the ground is shifting, so we'll see what happens in the future.
Um aside from that, most of the other items are uh are actually uh part of the strategy.
Right.
In terms of next steps, so this this is kind of the in the timeline that we've been working on, and here we are at the end in in February, and uh we're we're here to take, you know, if you have a moment to sort of take a look over the documents again and provide us your comments, uh uh we'll be preparing a final plan for uh council consideration sometime in March.
Um after that time, the document would be forwarded to the uh official community plan review team in developing the redeveloping the OCP.
We will continue to work with CA C EA to finalize the online community resource guide to help residents find ways to reduce their emissions.
And part of that will also be council members of council member recall in in November.
We also talked about the greenhouse gas calculator.
And the most efficient way to do it we found is basically Sanjay willing for us to link directly to their website.
So we would all be using the same information in terms of comparing our you know respective kind of footprints.
And we can use that those numbers to help model what happens if we change of behavior so if we switch from uh you know if we switch from oil heating to a to a heat pump um to what would be the uh what would be the impact so uh the other things that these the strategy notes is um and that would we should probably look at again in the future is updating the corporate energy and emissions plan which goes back to 2012 and that was you know before electric cars existed and a lot of you know before heat pump technology has evolved to the way it has.
So I think we should look at how um the town in in its own corporate activities um can continue to um minimize our our greenhouse gas emissions.
And the other item for consideration is is an adaptation plan in in the financial plan.
The uh in in that plan it talks about sea level rise but I probably the focus should probably be changed to be a bit more wide ranging in terms of uh climate act adaptation in instead of just sea level rise.
So um the recommendation is to receive the report and hopefully we can get some of your comments and we can bring it back bring the document back to uh council for finalization and in the meantime we will continue to work on the uh the resource guide so okay thank you I think you've you've heard a lot of comments um i so maybe people can provide some information by email comment if they if they're interested um yes is that does that sound fair yeah that's fair and and i do wonder you know i i mean i think there's enough community interest in this that probably sending it to the two advisory committees as well for comment makes sense um i'd i'd be happy to move that well i think we could just move it in tandem with the recommendation that we receive for report or more information and and and forward to the advisory committees sure okay so that's moved by councillor rogers seconded by councillor koalovich go ahead Jeff just thank you uh your worship um so that will uh if we do that then that will probably mean that the uh plan won't be considered for in March it'll be after March because it'll be after when the when the advisory committees meet thank you just a question your worship um could we not have a uh special advisory committee uh uh meetings at the end of March it's not gonna matter if it if it comes back in April or March in the big scheme of things i let's not micromanage the process.
Yeah.
Yeah it's just that we've waited this long.
Well, let's yeah i don't i don't think it's gonna make a big difference.
Um okay, so everyone's comfortable and and good with that.
Okay, thank you, Staff.
Thank you, Robin.
It it looks great so far.
Okay, all in favor, opposed, that's carried.
Staff, just before we carry on, I just wonder for the sake of this gentleman from MyRaplace, um, if maybe we should.
I'm I'm thinking that his is going to be very fast.
Am I right in presuming that?
So rather than making him sit here through two more long ones, maybe we should reverse the order and do that first.
Is that all right?
I'm not seeing nods.
Okay, well, no, no, I am seeing a nod.
Okay, so we're gonna then we're gonna start with item D and and on my replace.
So go ahead, stop.
Thank you, Worship Jeff Chao Senior Planner again.
I'm going to load that presentation up.
Find it on my computer.
Where is it?
Uh producer.
Um if you have that presentation handy, that would be appreciated.
So introduction.
This gentleman's happy.
The whole flow of the show.
Yes, I'm I'm confused now.
So okay.
Presentation is open, but I can't find it on my list of things to uh load up to share.
Thank you.
Wonderful.
Okay, the purpose of this uh this application for development permit is to vary the development variance permit to uh vary lot width to facilitate a boundary adjustment.
And this is for a property subject property at 2679 Myra Place.
You can see in the air photo there, it's highlighted in yellow.
It's in two pieces that are separated by the Galloping Goose Regional Trail.
And next slide, please.
So the existing lot is what's called a hooked parcel.
And it was part of the original lot, but happened to be separated from the remainder of the site by the Galloping Goose Regional Trail.
The existing house is on the on the opposite side of the Galloping Goose Trail from Myra Place and is accessed by a driveway that crosses the Galloping Goose.
Next slide, please.
So the applicant has applied for a boundary adjustment to transfer approximately 200 square meters of land to the neighboring property at 2675 Myra Place.
Next slide, please.
And that would allow 2675 MyReplace to be larger and may facilitate a potential expansion to the house in the future.
Next slide, please.
Because of the new lot boundary, the width of the lot would be a lot lower than what the zoning bylaw permits, and hence a variance is required.
Next slide, please.
In this case, the proposal can be supported because there would be no streetscape impacts.
This is a property that's on a private strata road and sort of accessed by a cul-de-sac.
There would be no adverse neighborhood impacts to the adjacent residence.
In this case, it benefits 265 MyReplace.
Adequate access to the subject properties maintained and the strata corporation has provided written approval.
Next slide please unless there's any other uh information requested from the committee notice can be considered for the proposal at a at a council meeting the recommendation is to receive the report.
Thank you Jeff and the applicant is here if there's any uh if there's any questions so I'll go to okay, go ahead.
Yeah.
Thank you again to uh the mayor um uh question, there's not a chance um that we're gonna see two seven no two six seven nine subdivided any smaller or put in, you know, townhouses or whatever.
There's there's no ability to do that.
Uh through your worship.
Uh this is a barreland strata, so it is zoned for single family residential use only.
Uh it would uh I believe actually, um producer, if you can move back about two slides, please.
Okay.
Uh oh, yeah, I don't have it in this presentation, but uh the lot size uh in that zone, the R1 zone is uh is 1,000 square meters per lot.
And this wouldn't even with this uh boundary adjustment, it would not uh permit subdivision of two six seven five my replace okay two six seven nine can't be subdivided either no no okay great thank you your your worship go ahead lindsey chase approving officer there is actually also um further to that um there is a prohibition in the in the land title act of strata on strata so they would not be there would be a very substantial process to dissolve the existing strata provide access to that property uh and re reconstitute it as a fee simple lot prior to putting an additional strata on it and I I don't think that that's a viable proposition so I I think that the likelihood of of that happening is is in is exceedingly slim.
Okay thank you counselor lemon thank you um I am confused and and and so perhaps you know just a real basic explanation of what I'm seeing here can be you know that would be helpful.
I I understand the property I understand where it is I understand the cul-de-sac bit of it what I don't understand is what's happening here.
Well the the property on the left, right?
Yeah.
So the big one that actually owns the property, the yellow shaded on the right is owned by, right?
So they're simply obviously they're they made a business arrangement to transfer ownership of that to the lot on the right to make it bigger so they can possibly expand the house.
Okay.
All right, got it now.
Thank you very much.
I know it is a little confusing.
I was too when I when I first looked at it.
Thank you.
All right, good.
I'm good.
Is everybody else good?
I mean, this to me sort of looks fairly straightforward and can probably just come to council.
Yep.
Yeah.
Go ahead, Ron.
Yeah.
So for clarification, the only reason this is coming to us is because they need that variance.
That's right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
So if everyone's good, we'll move receipt.
So move.
Second.
Okay.
All in favor.
Opposed.
That's carried.
So I think it's good.
Staff will make the arrangements with you.
It'll come to a council meeting in the future.
Thank you.
So now staff will go back to item B, which is three Helmican Road.
Thank you, your worship.
Trust you can hear me with this microphone.
I think it's on.
My name is James Davison.
I'm a community planner here at the town of Uroyal.
I would also like to virtue signal and say I have a deposit on a heat pump.
Given the fact that my wife and daughters.
My wife and daughters really like the warm house with our current oil heating.
The global warming issue may be over in a few months.
Thank you.
So the purpose of this report is to introduce a mixed residential form and character development permit application to committee.
So this is a four-parcel uh piece of property, uh referred to as three Helmcken in this report for convenience.
It was rezoned to CD24 in 2020.
Uh, if you recall, there were three subzones delineated by maximum height of buildings, uh, largely to step the property down towards the hidden oaks and towards the sea, the uh the street level.
Um, this this being on the corner of Burnside and Helmkin.
Zone permits both townhouse department residential, but a maximum FSR of 1.5.
So there were three covenants registered at the time of rezoning.
There's a CAC Covenant, community amenity contribution of $3,500 per dwelling.
So that would be $819,000 based on the proposed 234 units.
That would be paid in advance of the issuance of a building permit.
There's a consolidation covenant, so the lands must be consolidated into one parcel.
Only existing uses can be continued and no sale or transfer of parcels separately.
And there's a tenant covenant requiring that four months' notice be provided to tenants before demolition, and that requires the payment of the tenant relocation package, the details of which were attached to the report.
Land consolidation will be a stated condition in the form and character development permit when that is put together.
The applicant is proposing 234 units of residential apartment development.
So one, two, and three-bedroom configuration currently proposed as purpose-built rental.
There was no covenant that secured that purpose-built rental.
So potentially in the future, this could be strata.
But currently, they're proposing rental.
Unit number has been reduced from 247 that was described at the time of rezoning to 234 units.
Mixed has changed to include more three-bedroom units.
So there's now 26 three-bedroom units proposed, which is a really good thing for families hoping to find housing in View Royal.
Proposed vehicle parking has also been reduced.
There's support there is a supporting parking study performed by Watt Consulting Group.
As we have seen in parking studies in the past, they they do uh state that the rental, purpose-built rental, uh does have less of a parking demand typically than condo buildings.
Uh the requested variance is 26 spaces.
I will note that uh 26 spaces could potentially be paid for by the payment and lose scheme that we have in our zoning bylaw.
So $12,000 per space.
So there is potential that they would not have to request a variance if they decided to pay that.
We have the site data summary here.
It's very close to uh to what was proposed at the time of zoning.
We have the zoning proposal and one column, the development permit proposal.
The only variance that is noted is that vehicle parking variance.
So this is a site that's identified in our official community plan in the northern gateway.
So this is an important gateway identified in the OCP that requires the creation of a strong sense of place in the area surrounding the hospital and leading into the southern areas of town.
So when you're entering View Royal along Helmkin, this is going to be the first building you see on your right hand side.
And we want this to be a strong design.
And I really think that the architect here has accomplished this.
There's a couple of renderings here that we see, one on the left that's more conceptual.
One on the right shows a little bit more into detail in terms of materials.
A really critical thing here is that there are no blank walls.
There are at grade entrances to individual units, which really activates the street and really fosters a sense of community, which is continued with the plaza at the intersection, that really would form as a gathering space and a welcome entrance to the town.
As far as the design character, as we said, at great entrances at street street level proposed pedestrian friendly plaza at the intersection and no blank walls.
The buildings step down at significant locations here on the top.
You can see especially near the entrance and the hidden oaks interface, there is there is a step down to provide a little bit more of height relief and a little bit more of a human scale.
Design steps top floors back from the building facades.
There's visual interest in the building articulations from all external angles.
The bend in the building along the Helmkin frontage and the gap uh in between the hidden oaks interface really provides some visual relief.
There's a focus on reducing visual and physical impact there.
The terracing of the buildings, partial stories, open space between the two buildings, again providing visual relief.
And the buildings are pulled back from the property line in some spots, providing varied treed open space for screening the adjacent properties.
And this is especially important to the north at the sandage boundary, and again to the to the townhouses to the west.
As far as the building design and the materials go, uh, West Coast Contemporary style is identified in the mixed residential form and character guidelines.
The style is very similar to other buildings that we've seen in the area recently.
And the proposed materials are a mix of neutral tones and natural textures.
The landscaping.
So the interior common space pictured here proposes and provides a multi-use feel in the courtyard.
So it is designed to be driven on, it's designed to support fire vehicles, but it doesn't look like a road.
It looks like a pedestrian space.
And this is designed to make vehicles feel like they are definitely the second or third mode of transportation here.
Pedestrians uh being being prioritized.
So it's a functional roadway with non-traditional road surfaces that resemble pedestrian-friendly squares and plazas.
Invites pedestrian and bicycle traffic and indicates to drivers that it is a shared space and as I said protective services uh it it it um complies with their requirements there is also the central green space pictured here providing a gathering and recreational opportunity regarding tree preservation the applicant has provided a tree preservation plan which identifies 107 trees on the site approximately 50 of those trees are anticipated to be preserved uh in green here and again now most of the trees uh most of the trees being preserved are on the north and west sides.
There is a requirement for two to one replacement of trees removed, which can be on site, can be off site.
Uh, noting that this application is being processed under the current, which is the old tree bylaw, as the new one has not yet been adopted.
Uh, regarding parking, uh, the the the since the rezoning application, proposed parking has been reduced from 340 spaces serving 247 units down to 300 spaces serving 234 units, and again requires either a variance or that payment in lieu provision.
Two underground parking levels are proposed, six surface parking spaces and five accessible spaces.
All the accessible spaces are on the level one of the parkade.
Two proposed bicycle storage rooms on the first level of underground parking and racks for each of the buildings as required by the zoning bylaw.
Uh all the required bicycle parking is provided.
The applicant has provided a parking study as previously mentioned.
Should the applicant request the variants, staff will work with them to determine what possible traffic demand management measures they may take to offset the reduction in provided parking, such things as they could they could request, or we could uh as a town uh want um vehicle shares, um those sorts of things.
So lighting.
The applicant is proposing dark skies friendly lighting, the location of the lighting ballards are on the landscape plan.
Drawings.
As far as access and circulation, uh well designed site, uh, easy pedestrian access, six surface parking spaces, three loading areas, one for each building.
There's five accessible spaces as mentioned, all located on the first underground parking level.
And provides pedestrian circulation and prioritizes that over vehicular traffic.
Crime prevention through environmental design principles have been closely followed.
There's windows everywhere facing every every building.
Every building face has windows that are looking upon the shared space, the sidewalk space.
So it's in my opinion, it's a very strong septic design.
And garbage and recycling collection is on the first parking level.
So that will not be at ground level outside.
It will be collected inside.
TIA must be provided to the town's engineering department for review.
It will be based on traffic volumes collected at a minimum one month after the completion of the McKenzie interchange.
The McKenzie interchange wasn't fully done when we went through the rezoning process.
So we'd like to see an updated numbers.
Include both study area intersections described in the traffic impact assessment by Watt Consulting Group in 2019.
A review of potentially adding a second westbound lane on Helmkin Road between Burnside Road West and Watkiss Way.
Review and discuss the left turn movement at the Burnside Road West and Helmcken intersection, as well as including specific discussion of pedestrian movements at Waukiss Way and Helmkin Road intersection.
So staff is supportive of the application and we are working with the applicant to refine the information provided.
So when when the um the following information is received to staff's satisfaction.
Uh the item could then be brought back to council for consideration.
So identifying whether the parking variance is desired or whether the payment in lieu would be the way forward.
Uh what traffic demand management measures the applicant is willing to explore.
Uh identification of any retaining wall heights on the landscape plan.
That wasn't terribly clear.
We don't think there's very many very high retaining walls, but we want that updated.
Update to the TIA with engineering requirements, as well as working with the applicant to ensure that the lot is consolidated in a timely fashion.
The recommendation is to receive.
Thank you.
Thank you, James.
Councillor Lemon.
Yeah, thank you.
Thank you, James.
Um I'm wondering if the applicant has consulted with the residents of Hidden Oaks on this round.
Thank you.
I understand there was this uh somewhat of a significant uh consultation process during the rezoning.
Uh the applicant is on the phone.
Uh if if they have done any updated, I'm sure he can answer the question.
Okay.
Rob, are you there?
Uh yeah, I'm I'm here and um um uh mayor and counsel the yeah the most of the consultation that we did with Hidden Oaks was through the rezoning phase.
Through the development permit phase, we tried as much as we could to not introduce any new information or changes from what was done in the rezoning.
So um there hasn't been any official consultation with them um recently um for the purposes of the development permit.
We were focusing mainly on meeting the objectives of the design guidelines.
Okay, thank you.
Because the the property has sat for quite some time since then.
I I wonder if there had been any recent attempts to approach those on the other side of the fence.
So you haven't, but thank you for that.
Um a question about um visitor parking.
Would it be in the winner or would it be in the in the two levels underground?
Uh thank you.
Through the chair, um that is uh potentially another thing that we will have to explore and bring back uh when when the item is considered a council so i will i will ask the applicant to provide locations of visitor parking good thank you and uh just one more question and that is um will that parking be e ready yeah yes thank you through the chair um our our zoning bylaw requires that all required residential parking which is all of the parking uh is is level two charger ready okay so that would that would be an outlet for for a level two charger okay thank you.
Next, Dr.
Rogers.
Okay, thank you.
Uh question to staff um uh let me just see where it is.
Yeah, um, just to confirm uh on gosh, what is it?
Your your page two of ten, um, the tenant covenant.
So uh no, not the tenant covenant project information below that.
So we do not have any covenant that's gonna secure a rental-only uh status.
That's correct, no.
Okay, yeah, because um, you know, I there's um that we there was the reduction of parking, and there's the suggestion that with purpose-based rental, uh, you might have a right uh rationale for in reducing the number of parking spots, but there's every possibility that this could go condo and you know at any time.
So, and and with condos that need more parking, I would certainly be hesitant to uh and grant to variance.
Just uh throw that out there for staff, but we never, you know, when we rezoned this, we thought it was actually going to be condominiums.
We we didn't think it was going to be rental, but it's the rental company that's bought it since.
Right.
Yeah, that's right.
So it's um is it's one of those one of those impacts I I think of of parking and and and the um the the variance that we see here.
So Christian staff back, and I cannot remember and I couldn't find the document, but way back when we were listening and hearing um uh the first part of all this, what would the what was the parking um vehicle parking provided for at that time thank you so the vehicle parking uh uh uh within the zoning proposal was was 340 okay so there was no um variances at that time okay i would have to calculate it i could i could do it quickly but yeah you um steph also mentioned there was an updated traffic report and i cannot find it.
The only ones that in this this report that i could find were traffic reports dating back to 2019.
Thank you.
So we there because it was suggesting that there was some kind of report that would uh you know provide a uh uh reasons for reduced parking and I couldn't see any any uh such rationale in the package so just to be sure that it's not in the package okay those are my comments there so far your worship okay thank you I have to say for me on the parking I mean I understand completely that the the applicant can just choose to to buy the spaces as per our bylaw but I I mean I I will wait for the proof but I don't see 300 parking spaces for 234 units as being unreasonable at all because i mean i i think the days of demanding massive amounts of parking are are maybe coming to an end but at any rate that's just my personal thoughts on my left no councillor mattson uh thank you yes um i mean we have a policy in place that sets out on how we uh developer can reduce the the the required parking and and i just have a problem with us giving it any sort of variance on on this, you know, unless there was some extraordinary benefits that they gave to us.
It has not been updated.
I mean, we have we had which is why we created the policy in the first place.
And so you know, pretty soon we may as well not have this that policy at all if people can just come and ask a variance and we'll give it.
So I I'd be hard pressed to to support a variance in terms of you know voting approval for uh for this development permit.
The other thing I'd like to see, and I hope to see is whether there will be some renderings that'll give us a pretty good idea of what what the project will look like in terms of you know the colors, etc.
Uh I mean these these are very nice that the ones that that are provided, but they don't really do much for me to sort of give me that overall idea of what these things will look like once the the buildings.
I suspect when it comes to council it'd be easy enough for the architect to provide us with a sample board of the finishings.
Other than just the finishings though but you know a rendering it has all the the colors and so we can I mean part of the problem is for my for my mind and some of the buildings that have gone up it's really hard to tell what they're going to look like just you know from some of the small renderings we've had so something that'll give us a sort of a give me a better idea of what it's going to look like would be helpful.
And those are my comments that um as we went through this pretty extensively when the kid went through zoning in terms of what the place would look like, etc.
in terms of uh the the exterior and the and the landscaping.
And you know, I'm I'm still quite pleased with the way the way it looks conceptually.
So that's it for me.
Thank you.
Thank you.
And just to be clear, the um the the cash and loo on the parking space, you're speaking in support of that policy that we adopted.
I think what I'm saying is as long as we have that policy, I'm hard pressed for us not to follow it.
Right.
Thank you, Councillor Matson.
I I don't disagree, but I also agree that you know if they come in with some come back with some wonderful transportation demand strategies, the you know, that we should be prepared to at least look at that.
So anyway.
So I mean, I for me, I think it looks great.
I I I really like the plaza on the corner.
I think that's going to add a lot to that corner, and it looks nice.
I like the design of the building.
I like the layout of the property.
So um I look forward to seeing it move forward.
Something.
Uh just um uh picking up on on Council Lemon's point.
Um and with in the applicant's response, I don't see that there's been any changes that they've they have fulfilled their their commitments as far as uh I think so.
Hidden Oaks will be notified um when it comes forward.
Yeah.
So um they'll have the opportunity to to review it.
But you're right, there's been, you know, essentially it is the project that was came forward yeah that's right yeah I guess the the only worship um the only point on on the parking thing is um my my concern is um there is no other than on street parking on and that might be an interesting thing on street parking on burnside um you know if if um if we don't provide the parking sufficient parking then individuals could uh park there on the street or worse still in in the neighborhood down on on Camden and that was one of the uh real big issues uh that we've heard over and over again with um uh uh other developments and and parking overflows, or worst case scenario, of course, six mile road.
I don't disagree, but I mean, you know, I mean anyhow, we'll we'll let staff work with them on the but I mean they're proposing 300 units or 300 parking spots for 234 units.
So ratio wise to me that doesn't seem unreasonable.
But at any rate we'll leave it with the staff to to work with them.
Move or seat.
Thank you.
So moved by counselor quality, seconded by councillor Rogers.
All in favor opposed, that's carried.
So next up we have the 221 Atkins Road.
Who's doing that?
Hi, so this is Jeff Chow Senior Planner.
So I had to do two things to unmute myself, not just Star Six.
And I'd like to to uh respond to James's challenge of virtue singing by noting I live in a 1945 house.
I put it we put a heat pump in ten years ago.
Luckily we had the ductwork and electrical service to accommodate that.
And although I don't have an electrical vehicle like him, I try to cycle to work when it's not wet, cold, dark, or windy.
Right.
Well, we're learning a lot about everyone today.
Okay.
So I'm just gonna see if I have the right presentation here.
Aha, I see it.
There we go.
Uh the purpose of this uh this report was to present a revised proposal for an environmental development permit that would facilitate subdivision at 221 Atkins Road.
This is a property that has had two landslides uh in the last within the last 50 years.
Uh it's and it's located on a on uh Millstream Creek.
The property itself is on two levels separated by the slope, as you can sort of see in the air photo there.
There is an existing household property close to the road.
So the original proposal I was presented in 2001, 2021 was for a three-lot subdivision.
And uh and that development permit proposal, they provided a number of studies in accordance with the development permit guidelines to protect the streamside protection and enhancement area adjacent to Millstream Creek.
Um setbacks from the geotechnical um for geotechnical stability from the top of the bank and a tree protection boundary too, because it's the site is extensively treed.
The other factors for the building siting were the zoning restrictions.
And at the time, because of the reduced area for our building envelopes, variances were requested, but those were not supported by the committee.
The applicant has reworked the proposal into a two lot subdivision as shown here.
And the plan here is to keep the existing dwelling, demolish part of it so that it would comply with the setback requirements through the new lot line.
The buildable areas are still based on the same criteria for stream side protection, geotechnical stability, protection of trees.
And in this case, they they have a layout here now that that works with the zoning and no variances are required.
Staff support this proposal because there is an adequate uh building envelope provided and there's still additional uh sufficient yard space to make uh to make the lots uh livable.
Um the only the only uh intrusion into the into the spia would be would likely be stormwater drains from the uh from the dwellings and the studies for from both the biologist report and geotechnical uh support the uh the ability to do that, and they have some recommendations for minimizing impact onto the uh into the sensitive areas.
Um part of it is is is you do want water to be carried down the slope in such a way that doesn't create erosion, uh, but you also want to have uh the right balance of um of infiltration at the top of the slope to make maintain the hydrology.
So too much water is bad, too little water is not good either.
Uh in terms of complying with the uh zones, the uh the proposed lots would comply with, as shown here, would comply with the uh the requirements of the R1 zone and lot width as well.
One thing to clarify, uh what was quite unusual in the original subdivision plan for this property is that it showed the lot line extended to the centered line of Millstream Creek.
Um creeks are dynamic.
Uh the net and typically what happens is in a subdivision, the extent of a lot is at the natural boundary.
Um and it appears like the areas in this case uh we just need to confirm that the lot areas are in fact land areas and not not the not the uh not the millstream creek because those typically uh landed that is within streak streams, lakes, rivers, and the ocean.
Um every time you do a survey, uh the present natural boundary is would be where the boundary is, and the other land that's under that's under the bed of the water is called what's a return to crown.
So it appears like we are at the minimum lot size just over the minimum lot size, but we'll confirm confirm that with the surveyor and once that's confirmed the application can move forward to consideration by council.
So the recommendation is to uh receive the report.
Okay thank you staff questions for staff counselor rogers?
Um thank you, Steph.
The um it it seems like there's uh being a new dwelling that uh the dwellings are supposed to be connected to the sewer.
Is that correct?
Uh through your worship that is correct.
And one of the so the subdivision aspect of this will uh require that the lot be the two properties be serviced by by a sewer connection.
So the uh property owner would probably have to extend the uh the existing sewer line uh to to the end of this property, and there would probably be accessing extended services because uh you don't do it just for one uh one parcel, you would uh you would have to do it to accommodate uh future properties.
Yeah, um and looking at um the the map and location plan, uh does the sewer end at the um uh the whatever the subdivision is the townhouse subdivision is that where it ends on on that stream side uh through your worship that's correct okay so it would have to extend past um uh address 201 and 205 to get to uh this location uh through your worship that's correct and so does that enable the those two properties to be able to connect in a sewer uh through your worship um as benefiting properties they could um they would have to pay a share to because the uh the uh proponent for this application is the it's the frontender uh the applicant could enter into a late comer agreement so that uh those properties that benefit from from the uh for the line uh would pay a share towards uh contribute a share towards the cost because it's it's not insignificant.
Okay.
So and I also assume that uh if the the sewer line is going up that side road then uh the trees that are currently there existing trees uh may have to be removed for that sewer line uh for your worship um I don't know if the engineering dep director of engineering is here but uh sewer lines can also be in installed under a road um and in this case the uh the road does not have a shoulder uh there is but there is a uh a stormwater ditch on the side of that on the side of that uh on the side of that road on the edge of pavement that services the uh the road uh and the other the other point uh from the artiverse is they noted those trees were not in the uh greatest condition uh but a sewer line is not would be within the road right away not necessarily at the edge of road but it can be within the road the paved area as well yeah thank you thank you councillor lemon um um yeah.
Um Jeff Lot two.
Can you give me a comparative of another lot or property in View Royal by size?
I'm I'm just looking at this.
I'm looking at the at the the actual overhead picture.
And at it's it's going to be a very skinny skinny lot.
Am I right?
Like small and thin and tight.
Quarter of an acre.
No, no, no, it's point one zero one of a hect half hectare.
Yeah.
Three across, yeah.
So that's that's uh one thousand square meters, which is um ten thousand square feet, and the buildable area of that is probably, I'm I'm just eyeballing is probably um thirty to 40 percent of that.
Okay, okay.
It it's okay.
All right.
It it appeared to me that it was going to be a real squeeze, and there's a house right on the other side of that.
And and I I just um don't see a lot of room for movement.
That's all.
Thank you.
Everybody else is good.
Can I just ask one more question?
Yeah, yeah, thank you.
Uh Steph, just um a little bit of nervous uh uh yeah concern about uh lens um slope stability um you know when you when you put a weight of a house on lot two, um and and thank goodness we've got geotech um assessments of this um and with those geotech assessments um you know that that relieves us as of and of any liability if a house is placed on there and and uh nature takes its course um i'm not sure that i can answer that question perhaps another staff member may have some expertise i'm just wondering about uh uh town risk yeah i'm assuming the necessary studies would have to be done at the time of subdivision to alleviate those fears yeah thank you.
Thank you, your worship um lindsey chase, uh approving officer for the for the town.
As part of the subdivision approval process, we will uh require the registration of geotechnical covenants on the property, and those geotechnical covenants from the geotechnical engineer will certify that the lot uh is safe for the intended use.
Um so they are the the geotech uh will stake will stake their reputation and their and their uh their insurance uh on on the the statements that they make.
Um and it is also possible that at the time of building permit, um uh it is possible that the chief building official at the time may consider whether or not additional geotechnical work is required in order to again assure the town and future property owners that the lot is safe for the intended use.
Okay, great.
Thank you, Lindsay.
Thank you.
So for the public at home, question period is coming up almost right away.
So this would be a good time to call in if you have any questions.
And the questions can be about anything.
It doesn't have to be on the agenda tonight, but it does need to be a question.
And so can I get a motion to receive?
Um sorry, I see the applicants here.
I wonder if he had I think we're pretty much done with it.
Okay.
I don't see I don't sense any great concerns.
So yeah.
Okay.
So we just need a motion to receive that report.
So moved.
Okay.
Moved and seconded.
All in favor, posed, that's carried.
Thank you.
And then we have one piece of correspondence to receive.
Move received.
Second.
All in favor.
Posed, that's carried.
And then we're at question period, but I'll just hold for 30 seconds or so just in case.
Are there any callers on the line stuff?
Your worship, we have no callers for general questions at this time.
Yeah.
We'll we'll wait it just a minute just in case because it did come up very quickly.
Don't forget to take your financial plantime meeting.
Finder home with you.
Already done.
Counselor Mattson, I guess you don't have yours yet.
I was hoping you could drop it off to me this uh next couple days.
I'll I'll run it up tomorrow on my my pedal bike.
We have to career.
Yeah.
Well, he can only miss one more meeting, so he might be back next week or he's done for the year.
This is still COVID time.
I think you better reread um Kim's email that he sent out.
Darian, if we don't have any callers, I think we'll close off question period.
Your worship, we don't have any callers at this time.
Okay, thank you very much.
Thanks everyone.
So I'll look for a motion to terminate.
Good.